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Bug Report: 2.4.22-pre5: BUG in page_alloc (fwd)

DISCUSSION Larry McVoy 2 participants 7 messages Jul 21, 2003 – Aug 17, 2003 1 message not in the archive

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You don't need the tags, use dates. You can get the date range you want with an rlog of the ChangeSet file and then use those dates.

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Quoted 18 lines · Stephan von Krawczynski
Quoted 15 lines · On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 10:49:06 +0200 Stephan von Krawczynski <[email protected]>…
Quoted 9 lines · On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:14:15 -0300 (BRT) Marcelo Tosatti…

I have just started stress testing a 8way OSDL box to see if I can reproduce the problem. I'm using pre6+axboes BH_Sync patch.

I'm running 50 dbench clients on aic7xxx (ext2) and 50 dbench clients on DAC960 (ext3). Lets see what happens.

After lunch I'll keep looking at the oopses. During the morning I only had time to setup the OSDL box and start the tests.

Hello Marcelo,

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have you seen anything in your tests? My box just froze again after 3 days during NFS action. This was with pre6, I am switching over to pre7.

I managed to freeze the pre7 box within these few hours. There was no nfs involved, only tar-to-tape.
I switched back to 2.4.21 to see if it is still stable.
Is there a possibility that the i/o-scheduler has another flaw somewhere (just like during mount previously) ...

is it a scsi tape? Is the tape always involved? there are st.c updates between 2.4.21 to 22pre7. you can try to back them out.

If only the BKCVS would provide the tags in all files and not only in the file ChangeSets it would be very easy again to extract all the st.c updates. What happened to the BKCVS, why aren't the tags present in all the files anymore? Is it a mistake or intentional?

You should also provide a SYSRQ+P/T of the hang or we can't debug it at all.

Andrea
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#2 lore raw

Hi Larry,

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

You don't need the tags, use dates. You can get the date range you want with an rlog of the ChangeSet file and then use those dates.

I realized I could do this, and it can of course be automated with an additional bkcvs specific hack in cvsps. But the tag in every file would have kept the functionality generic with the already available -r option, and since I can't see any downside in the tag in the files, I prefer that generic way.

But if you're sure the tags aren't coming back we can start adding the automation to cvsps.

thanks,

Andrea

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Quoted 11 lines · Andrea Arcangeli

Hi Larry,

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

You don't need the tags, use dates. You can get the date range you want with an rlog of the ChangeSet file and then use those dates.

I realized I could do this, and it can of course be automated with an additional bkcvs specific hack in cvsps. But the tag in every file would have kept the functionality generic with the already available -r option, and since I can't see any downside in the tag in the files, I prefer that generic way.

The tags means that each file gets modified for each tag and then we have to transfer the whole tree after a tag. It thrashes the hell out of the disk too, for no good reason.

Also note that there are nowhere near as many tags as there are commits in the CVS tree. So by using tags you are restricting yourself to coarse granularity in your bug hunts.

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But if you're sure the tags aren't coming back we can start adding the automation to cvsps.

Please do, we're not adding the tags.

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Quoted 13 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 11 lines · Andrea Arcangeli

Hi Larry,

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

You don't need the tags, use dates. You can get the date range you want with an rlog of the ChangeSet file and then use those dates.

I realized I could do this, and it can of course be automated with an additional bkcvs specific hack in cvsps. But the tag in every file would have kept the functionality generic with the already available -r option, and since I can't see any downside in the tag in the files, I prefer that generic way.

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The tags means that each file gets modified for each tag and then we have to transfer the whole tree after a tag. It thrashes the hell out of the disk too, for no good reason.

Also note that there are nowhere near as many tags as there are commits in the CVS tree. So by using tags you are restricting yourself to coarse granularity in your bug hunts.

the granularity wasn't the issue, I need this feature anyways out of cvsps (cvsps is exactly the thing that generates the changesets out of the coarse granularity of the tags). the checkout/rsync being more expensive sounds a fair enough argument for implementing the feature in cvsps where it will be zero write cost.

since we're talking about bkcvs, I also would have a feature wish for the repository export in rsync.kernel.org: would it be possible to export a sequence number increased once before a transfer, and increased a second time after the tree is coherent again? When the sequence number is even and it didn't change before and after the rsync, we'll know the current status is coherent and we don't need to repeat the rsync (after some delay). Or is there any other mechanism that guarantees to get a coherent repository out of rsync?

thanks,

Andrea

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Quoted 3 lines · Andrea Arcangeli

since we're talking about bkcvs, I also would have a feature wish for the repository export in rsync.kernel.org: would it be possible to export a sequence number increased once before a transfer

I don't manage the rsync trees, HPA does that. Peter?

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Hi,

Quoted 22 lines · Andrea Arcangeli
Quoted 13 lines · Larry McVoy
Quoted 11 lines · Andrea Arcangeli

Hi Larry,

Quoted 2 lines · Larry McVoy

You don't need the tags, use dates. You can get the date range you want with an rlog of the ChangeSet file and then use those dates.

I realized I could do this, and it can of course be automated with an additional bkcvs specific hack in cvsps. But the tag in every file would have kept the functionality generic with the already available -r option, and since I can't see any downside in the tag in the files, I prefer that generic way.

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The tags means that each file gets modified for each tag and then we have to transfer the whole tree after a tag. It thrashes the hell out of the disk too, for no good reason.

Also note that there are nowhere near as many tags as there are commits in the CVS tree. So by using tags you are restricting yourself to coarse granularity in your bug hunts.

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the granularity wasn't the issue, I need this feature anyways out of cvsps (cvsps is exactly the thing that generates the changesets out of the coarse granularity of the tags). the checkout/rsync being more expensive sounds a fair enough argument for implementing the feature in cvsps where it will be zero write cost.

while writing the code to do it, I noticed the heuristic was already there in cvsps ;), and it is generic (not hardwired to the ChangeSet file). I had bad luck diffing with -r v2_4_22-pre3 (which is missing from the changeset file too, so I guess the info is missing in bitkeeper as well, not just bkcvs). Infact probably it's a long time that you dropped the tags from all files, and I noticed only now after getting the error diffing against 22pre3 ;).

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since we're talking about bkcvs, I also would have a feature wish for the repository export in rsync.kernel.org: would it be possible to export a sequence number increased once before a transfer, and increased a second time after the tree is coherent again? When the sequence number is even and it didn't change before and after the rsync, we'll know the current status is coherent and we don't need to repeat the rsync (after some delay). Or is there any other mechanism that guarantees to get a coherent repository out of rsync?

Peter, any suggestion on this? Larry said it's all on your side, so I assume you're running bkcvs yourself, or Larry is already providing you a locking mechanism that serializes against bkcvs and that allows you to fetch a coherent of the cvs repository. w/o this last locking bit that allows to export a coherent copy of the repository, I can't easily automate the stuff based on a local repository and I've to switch to the remote one, despite having it local is more flexible (and much faster for local browsing) and rsync -z is faster.

Many thanks again to both of you and last but not the least to David Mansfiel (cvsps author).

Andrea

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Hi,

Quoted 8 lines · Andrea Arcangeli

Peter, any suggestion on this? Larry said it's all on your side, so I assume you're running bkcvs yourself, or Larry is already providing you a locking mechanism that serializes against bkcvs and that allows you to fetch a coherent of the cvs repository. w/o this last locking bit that allows to export a coherent copy of the repository, I can't easily automate the stuff based on a local repository and I've to switch to the remote one, despite having it local is more flexible (and much faster for local browsing) and rsync -z is faster.

Any news on this? I'm still looking into a way to rsync a coherenty copy of the cvs repository.

Andrea