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CONFIG_USB_HID vs. CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT

DISCUSSION Karel Kulhavý 2 participants 4 messages Jun 15, 2004

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Hello

When I enable CONFIG_USB_HID and not enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT in 2.4.25, will I get something different from when I don't enable neither of them?

The <Help> says basically the same about both: that they control "keyboards, mice, joysticks, graphics tablets, or any other HID based devices" (CONFIG_USB_HID)
"keyboard, mouse or joystick or any other HID input device" (CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT)

I assume
1) it doesn't matter if "keyboard" or "keyboards" is in the <Help>
2) graphics tablets are assumed to be "any other HID input devices".

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Quoted 11 lines · Karel Kulhavý

Hello

When I enable CONFIG_USB_HID and not enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT in 2.4.25, will I get something different from when I don't enable neither of them?

The <Help> says basically the same about both: that they control "keyboards, mice, joysticks, graphics tablets, or any other HID based devices" (CONFIG_USB_HID)
"keyboard, mouse or joystick or any other HID input device" (CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT)

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I assume
1) it doesn't matter if "keyboard" or "keyboards" is in the <Help>
2) graphics tablets are assumed to be "any other HID input devices".

In that case you get the HID driver, but you won't get the Input binding, so the devices will be detected, but won't be accessible by the common means (keyboard through console, mouse via /dev/input/mice, etc.). They still will be accessible via HIDDEV, if you enable that.

Enabling HID without either HIDINPUT or HIDDEV is pointless.

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Quoted 16 lines · Vojtech Pavlik
Quoted 11 lines · Karel Kulhavý

Hello

When I enable CONFIG_USB_HID and not enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT in 2.4.25, will I get something different from when I don't enable neither of them?

The <Help> says basically the same about both: that they control "keyboards, mice, joysticks, graphics tablets, or any other HID based devices" (CONFIG_USB_HID)
"keyboard, mouse or joystick or any other HID input device" (CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT)

Quoted 3 lines

I assume
1) it doesn't matter if "keyboard" or "keyboards" is in the <Help>
2) graphics tablets are assumed to be "any other HID input devices".

Quoted 6 lines

In that case you get the HID driver, but you won't get the Input binding, so the devices will be detected, but won't be accessible by the common means (keyboard through console, mouse via /dev/input/mice, etc.). They still will be accessible via HIDDEV, if you enable that.

Enabling HID without either HIDINPUT or HIDDEV is pointless.

So they are 4 meaningful combinations:
0)nothing
1)HIDDEV
2)HIDINPUT
3)HIDINPUT+HIDDEV

There are 3 tickboxes with 5 possible combinations. I suggest reducing this count to 2 tickboxes with 4 naturally resulting combinations. I think it will be less confusing for a user.

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Quoted 30 lines · Karel Kulhavý
Quoted 16 lines · Vojtech Pavlik
Quoted 11 lines · Karel Kulhavý

Hello

When I enable CONFIG_USB_HID and not enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT in 2.4.25, will I get something different from when I don't enable neither of them?

The <Help> says basically the same about both: that they control "keyboards, mice, joysticks, graphics tablets, or any other HID based devices" (CONFIG_USB_HID)
"keyboard, mouse or joystick or any other HID input device" (CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT)

Quoted 3 lines

I assume
1) it doesn't matter if "keyboard" or "keyboards" is in the <Help>
2) graphics tablets are assumed to be "any other HID input devices".

Quoted 6 lines

In that case you get the HID driver, but you won't get the Input binding, so the devices will be detected, but won't be accessible by the common means (keyboard through console, mouse via /dev/input/mice, etc.). They still will be accessible via HIDDEV, if you enable that.

Enabling HID without either HIDINPUT or HIDDEV is pointless.

So they are 4 meaningful combinations:
0)nothing
1)HIDDEV
2)HIDINPUT
3)HIDINPUT+HIDDEV

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There are 3 tickboxes with 5 possible combinations. I suggest reducing this count to 2 tickboxes with 4 naturally resulting combinations. I think it will be less confusing for a user.

Actually - not. CONFIG_USB_HID enables or disables the hid.o module, and has three states - Y, N, M. The HIDINPUT/HIDDEV are just options for that module, enabling/disabling some of its functionality, having only Y and N states.

So it's quite straightforward. And there are 7 useful combinations, out of 9 possible.

And in your suggested case, you would either have to make HIDDEV/HIDINPUT tristate, resulting in illegal combinations of Y+M, or you wouldn't be able to express that the driver should be built as a module.

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Vojtech Pavlik
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