class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset? (in USA)
I currently have an IOGear Broadcom-based dongle because I didnt know what to look for. Now that I know my only real chance of SCO working with linux is a CSR chipset.... well, I want one. I was reading the archives of this mailing list and saw that the suggestion was to get a Cellink BlueCore4 based dongle with EDR support. However, it isn't looking like I can get hold of one in the USA. Any other suggestions?
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fwiw, I've been shopping around too, but I'm also looking for class 1. The best candidates for edr, class 1 csr...
Zonet ZUB6201C:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833130026
And bluetake bt007ex:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=176
but I never found out from anyone if it is CSR like both of these manufacturers have used in the past. Does anyone have either of these adapters?
Does anyone else think something is going on with CSR adoption rates? Vendors seem to have ignored bluecore4 and waited for broadcom edr to show up before going to bluetooth 2.0. Even those that were using bluecore2 before, like belkin, did this...
Brad
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I currently have an IOGear Broadcom-based dongle because I didnt know what to look for. Now that I know my only real chance of SCO working with linux is a CSR chipset.... well, I want one. I was reading the archives of this mailing list and saw that the suggestion was to get a Cellink BlueCore4 based dongle with EDR support. However, it isn't looking like I can get hold of one in the USA. Any other suggestions?
-Joe
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Hi Brad, hi list,
I'm also in the market for USB adapters (in the US). Any advice for which have CSR chipsets? Am I reading you right -- are you saying that bluecore4 is not yet available in a USB dongle? That's too bad.=20 What about other form factors? PCI? PCMCIA?
Patrick, do you know if Epox is available to the US market?
thanks,
jw
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Joseph
fwiw, I've been shopping around too, but I'm also looking for class 1. The best candidates for edr, class 1 csr...
Zonet ZUB6201C:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E16833130026
And bluetake bt007ex:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D26&products_id=3D176
but I never found out from anyone if it is CSR like both of these manufacturers have used in the past. Does anyone have either of these adapters?
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Does anyone else think something is going on with CSR adoption rates? Vendors seem to have ignored bluecore4 and waited for broadcom edr to show up before going to bluetooth 2.0. Even those that were using bluecore2 before, like belkin, did this...
Brad
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I currently have an IOGear Broadcom-based dongle because I didnt know what to look for. Now that I know my only real chance of SCO working with linux is a CSR chipset.... well, I want one. I was reading the archives of this mailing list and saw that the suggestion was to get a Cellink BlueCore4 based dongle with EDR support. However, it isn't looking like I can get hold of one in the USA. Any other suggestions?
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You could probably get something on Marcel's list from one of the UK retailers if you don't mind paying more... I am hoping to come across a domestic offering that is easy to recommend.
Neither zonet nor bluetake have replied to emails asking what is in there. There's got to be someone with these who could check :(
I do know that the mainstream offerings: belkin, kensington, iogear are not using CSR.
Brad
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I'm also in the market for USB adapters (in the US). Any advice for which have CSR chipsets? Am I reading you right -- are you saying that bluecore4 is not yet available in a USB dongle? That's too bad. What about other form factors? PCI? PCMCIA?
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Patrick, do you know if Epox is available to the US market?
thanks,
jwQuoted 23 lines · Brad Midgley
Joseph
fwiw, I've been shopping around too, but I'm also looking for class 1. The best candidates for edr, class 1 csr...
Zonet ZUB6201C:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833130026
And bluetake bt007ex:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=176
but I never found out from anyone if it is CSR like both of these manufacturers have used in the past. Does anyone have either of these adapters?
Does anyone else think something is going on with CSR adoption rates? Vendors seem to have ignored bluecore4 and waited for broadcom edr to show up before going to bluetooth 2.0. Even those that were using bluecore2 before, like belkin, did this...
Brad
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As for the possibility of getting the UK ones in the US, well, I tried a few searches and found 3 or 4 retailers, but none shipped to the US. Someone might be able to talk them into it, but the web forms explicitly say UK only, or at least "not US". If I'm completely off base about this, that's be fine, send me a link, I want a dongle more than my pride. Actually, looking at the cost of the zonet and bluetake you listed earlier I'm almost tempted to buy one and risk it, but right now I wouldn't have time to mess with it anyway.
-Joseph
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Jeff
You could probably get something on Marcel's list from one of the UK retailers if you don't mind paying more... I am hoping to come across a domestic offering that is easy to recommend.
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Neither zonet nor bluetake have replied to emails asking what is in there. There's got to be someone with these who could check :(
I do know that the mainstream offerings: belkin, kensington, iogear are not using CSR.
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Quoted 2 lines · On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:57:01 -0700 Brad Midgley <[email protected]> wrote:
Neither zonet nor bluetake have replied to emails asking what is in there. There's got to be someone with these who could check :(
I guess they just don't like you =). Seriously though, bad news from Zonet tech support:
Hi,
The ZUB6201C uses the Broadcom chipset.
Zonet Tech Support
email: [email protected]
Zonet USA Corp.
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I do know that the mainstream offerings: belkin, kensington, iogear are not using CSR.
Now we know Zonet's newest is also not CSR based. I'm still looking for a Bluetooth 1.2 (or 2.0) class 1 dongle that I can use with bluez and my 3com headset. Anyone, anyone? Are those crickets I hear in the distance?
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I'm glad you got through to zonet.
I got a "generic" class 1 bt1.1 or maybe 1.2 adapter a while back from compusa that was csr based. Sadly for us, CSR used to be more common and it's become less so.
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I am going to order a bluetake bt007ex today. It seems that it is using bluecore4 (CSR). No, bluetake has not gotten back to me on this simple question, but the software installer is "Toshiba bluetooth stack for windows by CSR"
http://www.bluetake.com/Manuals/BT007Ex/BT007Ex_QSG_EN.pdf
sheesh. I'll let you know what shows up...
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(in USA)
In reply to Brad Midgleyzonet zub6100 BT V1.1 - CSR
zonet (forgot the module) BT V1.2 Broadcomm
billonton BT V1.1 = CSR
I guess the 1.2 - broadcomm
that is way my next dongle would be V.2
with CSR
Niv
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Jeff
You could probably get something on Marcel's list from one of the UK retailers if you don't mind paying more... I am hoping to come across a domestic offering that is easy to recommend.
Neither zonet nor bluetake have replied to emails asking what is in there. There's got to be someone with these who could check :(
I do know that the mainstream offerings: belkin, kensington, iogear are not using CSR.
Brad
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I'm also in the market for USB adapters (in the US). Any advice for
which have CSR chipsets? Am I reading you right -- are you saying
that bluecore4 is not yet available in a USB dongle? That's too bad. What about other form factors? PCI? PCMCIA?Quoted 35 lines
Patrick, do you know if Epox is available to the US market?
thanks,
jwQuoted 25 lines · Brad Midgley
Joseph
fwiw, I've been shopping around too, but I'm also looking for class 1. The best candidates for edr, class 1 csr...
Zonet ZUB6201C:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833130026
And bluetake bt007ex:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=176
but I never found out from anyone if it is CSR like both of these manufacturers have used in the past. Does anyone have either of these adapters?
Does anyone else think something is going on with CSR adoption rates? Vendors seem to have ignored bluecore4 and waited for broadcom edr to show up before going to bluetooth 2.0. Even those that were using bluecore2 before, like belkin, did this...
Brad
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(in USA)
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that is way my next dongle would be V.2
with CSR
I don't know about availability in Israel, but Bluetake BT007EX is the best dongle we've come across... it also has 128-bit encryption in the shipping firmware. It is class 1 even though this page doesn't say:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?products_id=176
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(inUSA)
the level one V.2 sells at 30$ which is a decent price
Thanks
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that is way my next dongle would be V.2
with CSRI don't know about availability in Israel, but Bluetake BT007EX is the best dongle we've come across... it also has 128-bit encryption in the shipping firmware. It is class 1 even though this page doesn't say:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?products_id=176
brad
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(inUSA)
In reply to Brad MidgleyOh ya,
As far as I read the V.w Bus is 12 Mb, which is way more then the 0.7M the V.1 offers
does that mean I can use a V.2 adaptor to stream A2DP while using the earpeace and mouse - without hearing braek-ups in the headphones?
I currently get brake-ups if I run the proximity script during A2DP playback.
gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Bluetooth_Proximity_Monitor
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that is way my next dongle would be V.2
with CSRI don't know about availability in Israel, but Bluetake BT007EX is the best dongle we've come across... it also has 128-bit encryption in the shipping firmware. It is class 1 even though this page doesn't say:
http://www.btboutique.com/product_info.php?products_id=176
brad
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(inUSA)
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As far as I read the V.w Bus is 12 Mb, which is way more then the 0.7M the V.1 offers
does that mean I can use a V.2 adaptor to stream A2DP while using the earpeace and mouse - without hearing braek-ups in the headphones?
I currently get brake-ups if I run the proximity script during A2DP playback.
gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Bluetooth_Proximity_Monitor
you won't have breaks in the audio because of the usb bandwidth. You're
likely to have breaks when...
- you have a scatternet--because one device has to switch between master and slave
- you run wifi traffic alongside a pre-bt1.2 adapter
- you use a timer other than rtc
- you run the rtc timer on a machine with nvidia drivers
- you hijack the radio with a proximity scan or any other paging activity :)
bluetooth v2 is unlikely to help with proximity scanning. the real problem is the bluetooth radio can only be on one frequency at a time and the proximity scan needs to take it over briefly to check each frequency.
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(inUSA)
Dear Brad,
1. Well, according to this thread the only SCR adaptor that is >=V 1.2 are V. 2 adaptors.
2. Do you have a pair of headphnes? which?
If they are the logitech / HP - how did you reinforce the plastic strap from braking up?
Did you see any V.2 headphones?
Do they give better quality?
Niv
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Niv
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As far as I read the V.w Bus is 12 Mb, which is way more then the 0.7M the V.1 offers
does that mean I can use a V.2 adaptor to stream A2DP while using the earpeace and mouse - without hearing braek-ups in the headphones?
I currently get brake-ups if I run the proximity script during A2DP playback.
gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Bluetooth_Proximity_Monitor
you won't have breaks in the audio because of the usb bandwidth. You're likely to have breaks when...
- you have a scatternet--because one device has to switch between master and slave
- you run wifi traffic alongside a pre-bt1.2 adapter
- you use a timer other than rtc
- you run the rtc timer on a machine with nvidia drivers
- you hijack the radio with a proximity scan or any other paging activity :)
bluetooth v2 is unlikely to help with proximity scanning. the real problem is the bluetooth radio can only be on one frequency at a time and the proximity scan needs to take it over briefly to check each frequency.
Brad
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Re: [Bluez-users] class 1 bluetooth 1.2 dongles with CSR chipset?(inUSA)
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1. Well, according to this thread the only SCR adaptor that is >=V 1.2 are V. 2 adaptors.
There are 1.2 adapters out there but it's best to find a v2 adapter if you're buying new. Apple sells a d-link with 1.2 iirc.
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2. Do you have a pair of headphnes? which?
I have iphono mini right now. I've used and developed with hp, iTech, and iphono "non-mini" in the past.
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If they are the logitech / HP - how did you reinforce the plastic strap from braking up?
I lent out my set but I haven't heard of this problem.
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Did you see any V.2 headphones?
no. bluespoon may come out with a class 1 headset for better range but no one is talking about v2.
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Do they give better quality?
I would say v2 would not be a significant improvement in headset operation, but it would improve battery life and allow for better throughput overall in the piconet.
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