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Quoted 43 lines · Mario Fetka
Quoted 32 lines · On Saturday, 18. July 2009 04:06:13 Alain Kalker wrote:
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Op maandag 15-06-2009 om 22:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef sacha:

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Hello

Does anybody know if this devise will ever work with Linux? It was promised by one person last year the support will be available within months. One year has gone, nothing happens.
Is there any alternatives to develop a driver for this devise aside from this person?

Since there has been no answer to your question for some time, I think I will step in.

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From http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5/Terratec_HTC_XS , the future for

a driver from Markus for this device does seem to look quite bleak. However, from looking in the mailinglist archive I gather that Steven Toth has offered to try getting it to work if someone is willing to provide him with a device.
Maybe you two could get in contact.
I myself am also interested in a driver for this device but I haven't got one yet.

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Kind regards,

Alain

as far as i know there already exists a driver but it could not be published as it is based on the micronas refernce driver

i think the problem is related to

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http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-December/030738.html

but this new situation with
http://www.tridentmicro.com/Product_drx_39xyK.asp

can maby change something about this chip

and it would be possible to get the rights to publish the driver under gpl-2

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This won't solve the issue that the AVFB4910 has been discontinued. This affects FM Radio, Analogue TV, Composite and S-Video, that IC didn't get bought by Trident.

regards,
Markus

Did Devin Heitmueller comment on that? AFAIK he already finished a driver for the DRX-3933J and I would think he might have interest to get in contact with trident in order of being allowed to publish his work. Should be a rather small step compared to the work he has done so far.
And Trident has some history in cooperating together with XFree developers,
letting them develop graphics card drivers.

What about this AVFB4910? Is it possible to get a working DVB-C/DVB-T solution without getting in contact with this chip? And once this would be done, there should still be the option of reverse engineering the protocol of that one.

Meanwhile, Terratec has dicontinued the Cinergy HTC USB XS HD, but what about the H5? Does anyone know about its internals already?

AFAIK, these are still the only non-PCI DVB-C solutions on the market.

Hmm, did micronas give up this full range of products? Sold the 'interesting' part to trident and ceased production of everything else? Maybe half a year ago, they didn't want to disturb ongoing selling negotiations by giving away their intellectual property for free in parallel, and now, after all is settled, maybe they don't mind anymore. So contacting those people again could be worth it, too.

best regards,

Raimund

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Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate
für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02
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Quoted 50 lines · On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:10 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Quoted 43 lines · Mario Fetka
Quoted 32 lines · On Saturday, 18. July 2009 04:06:13 Alain Kalker wrote:
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Op maandag 15-06-2009 om 22:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef sacha:

Quoted 7 lines

Hello

Does anybody know if this devise will ever work with Linux? It was promised by one person last year the support will be available within months. One year has gone, nothing happens.
Is there any alternatives to develop a driver for this devise aside from this person?

Since there has been no answer to your question for some time, I think I will step in.

Quoted 1 line

From http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5/Terratec_HTC_XS , the future for

a driver from Markus for this device does seem to look quite bleak. However, from looking in the mailinglist archive I gather that Steven Toth has offered to try getting it to work if someone is willing to provide him with a device.
Maybe you two could get in contact.
I myself am also interested in a driver for this device but I haven't got one yet.

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Kind regards,

Alain

as far as i know there already exists a driver but it could not be published as it is based on the micronas refernce driver

i think the problem is related to

Quoted 9 lines

http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2008-December/030738.html

but this new situation with
http://www.tridentmicro.com/Product_drx_39xyK.asp

can maby change something about this chip

and it would be possible to get the rights to publish the driver under  gpl-2

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This won't solve the issue that the AVFB4910 has been discontinued. This affects FM Radio, Analogue TV, Composite and S-Video, that IC didn't get bought by Trident.

regards,
Markus

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Did Devin Heitmueller comment on that? AFAIK he already finished a driver for the DRX-3933J and I would think he might have interest to get in contact with trident in order of being allowed to publish his work. Should be a rather small step compared to the work he has done so far.
And Trident has some history in cooperating together with XFree developers,
letting them develop graphics card drivers.

What about this AVFB4910? Is it possible to get a working DVB-C/DVB-T solution without getting in contact with this chip? And once this would be done, there should still be the option of reverse engineering the protocol of that one.

For those who are interested in such a solution:

http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,2.0.html

http://sundtek.de/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Pro.html

There's a fully supported solution available for Linux already, it also includes online Linux support. The installation of the drivers can't be easier.

Best Regards,
Markus

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Meanwhile, Terratec has dicontinued the Cinergy HTC USB XS HD, but what about the H5? Does anyone know about its internals already?

AFAIK, these are still the only non-PCI DVB-C solutions on the market.

Hmm, did micronas give up this full range of products? Sold the 'interesting' part to trident and ceased production of everything else? Maybe half a year ago, they didn't want to disturb ongoing selling negotiations by giving away their intellectual property for free in parallel, and now, after all is settled, maybe they don't mind anymore. So contacting those people again could be worth it, too.

best regards,

Raimund

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Quoted 1 line · On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Did Devin Heitmueller comment on that? AFAIK he already finished a driver for the DRX-3933J and I would think he might have interest to get in contact with trident in order of being allowed to publish his work.

I was aware of the Micronas sale. At this point I would continue to encourage users interested in Linux support for tuners to stay away from the products that include the drx-k or drx-j.

Devin

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Quoted 7 lines · Devin Heitmueller
Quoted 1 line · On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:10 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Did Devin Heitmueller comment on that? AFAIK he already finished a driver for the DRX-3933J and I would think he might have interest to get in contact with trident in order of being allowed to publish his work.

I was aware of the Micronas sale.  At this point I would continue to encourage users interested in Linux support for tuners to stay away from the products that include the drx-k or drx-j.

we now do offer professional Linux support for DRX-K and DRX-J devices for customers.

Best Regards,
Markus

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Quoted 11 lines · Benny Amorsen
Quoted 5 lines · Markus Rechberger

For those who are interested in such a solution:

http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,2.0.html

http://sundtek.de/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Pro.html

This doesn't appear to have any support for CA modules? DVB-C is not very useful around here without a CAM...

We are currently discussing this with one of our partners as the situation changed
with having everything in userspace the devices will usually have manufacturer support.

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There's a fully supported solution available for Linux already, it also includes online Linux support. The installation of the drivers can't be easier.

I have to admit that it is cool that the driver is in user space. How about getting it included in the various Linux distributions?

We do not aim to include the drivers in any distribution as we can keep control on driver updates
any time.
The driver can be downloaded on our site.
It is tested with various Linuxversions between 2.6.15 and 2.6.30 (32 and 64bit).
The entire system can coexist with already available Kerneldrivers (eg. linuxuvc driver), but it
does not need any video4linux or dvb support in the kernel to be supported. It makes installing videodrivers a totally new experience, doable within a few seconds on
most systems.

Best Regards,
Markus

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In reply to Markus Rechberger
Quoted 5 lines · Markus Rechberger

For those who are interested in such a solution:

http://support.sundtek.de/index.php/topic,2.0.html

http://sundtek.de/shop/Digital-TV-Sticks/Sundtek-MediaTV-Pro.html

This doesn't appear to have any support for CA modules? DVB-C is not very useful around here without a CAM...

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There's a fully supported solution available for Linux already, it also includes online Linux support. The installation of the drivers can't be easier.

I have to admit that it is cool that the driver is in user space. How about getting it included in the various Linux distributions?

/Benny

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In reply to [email protected]
Quoted 1 line · [email protected] writes:

AFAIK, these are still the only non-PCI DVB-C solutions on the market.

The FireDTV is still for sale and works quite well at least for unencrypted channels.

I have ordered a decoder card; it will be interesting to see whether that works too.

/Benny