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Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting. balance_dirty_pages() wakes up the bdi_wq workqueue as it should:
[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : try_to_grab_pending <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550414us : del_timer <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pool <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : _raw_spin_lock <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : pwq_activate_delayed_work <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-pwq_activate_delayed_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : move_linked_works <-pwq_activate_delayed_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : pwq_dec_nr_in_flight <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : __queue_delayed_work <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : __queue_work <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : get_work_pool <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : _raw_spin_lock <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : insert_work <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : get_pwq.isra.20 <-insert_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : wake_up_worker <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : wake_up_process <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : try_to_wake_up <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : task_waking_fair <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : select_task_rq_fair <-select_task_rq [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : idle_cpu <-select_task_rq_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : idle_cpu <-select_task_rq_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : cpus_share_cache <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : _raw_spin_lock <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : activate_task <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : enqueue_task <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : update_rq_clock <-enqueue_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : enqueue_task_fair <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : update_curr <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : __compute_runnable_contrib.part.55 <-update_entity_load_avg [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : account_entity_enqueue <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_cfs_shares <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : __enqueue_entity <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : hrtick_update <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : wq_worker_waking_up <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : kthread_data <-wq_worker_waking_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : ttwu_do_wakeup <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : check_preempt_curr <-ttwu_do_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : check_preempt_wakeup <-check_preempt_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : update_curr <-check_preempt_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : wakeup_preempt_entity.isra.53 <-check_preempt_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550423us : bdi_dirty_limit <-bdi_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550424us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : bdi_position_ratio <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : io_schedule_timeout <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : __delayacct_blkio_start <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : ktime_get_ts <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : blk_flush_plug_list <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : schedule_timeout <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : lock_timer_base.isra.35 <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-lock_timer_base.isra.35 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : detach_if_pending <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : idle_cpu <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : internal_add_timer <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : __internal_add_timer <-internal_add_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550426us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : schedule <-schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : __schedule <-schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : rcu_note_context_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : rcu_sched_qs <-rcu_note_context_switch [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : deactivate_task <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : dequeue_task <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_rq_clock <-dequeue_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : dequeue_task_fair <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_curr <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : cpuacct_charge <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : clear_buddies <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : account_entity_dequeue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_min_vruntime <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_cfs_shares <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_curr <-update_cfs_shares [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_dequeue <-update_cfs_shares [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_enqueue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_curr <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : clear_buddies <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_dequeue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : update_min_vruntime <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : update_cfs_shares <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : hrtick_update <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : put_prev_task_fair <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : pick_next_task_fair <-pick_next_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : clear_buddies <-pick_next_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550431us : __dequeue_entity <-pick_next_task_fair
but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything:
[ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_thread
My suspicion is that this fails because the bdi_wq is frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by an fsync() that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
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2) /sys/kernel/debug/bdi/<dev>/stats
They are also in [1] - however the major/minors of my sdbX didn't match with the /sys/.../bdi/<dev>'s. So I just displayed them all.
3) What is the estimated bandwith?
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It's an Samsung SSD 840 PRO, in this system: Read: 237 MB/s, Write 265 MB/s - see [2] (the faster writing is maybe due caching?)
Just by curiosity:
Can you also reproduce it ? ... since the test is quite simple. Or is it something specific in my system here ?
I tried to reproduce it here but could never get to hang it in balance_dirty_pages() like you did.
Thanks,
Johannes
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[1] Attached session.log.s2disk.20140505_2238.bz2
- 18MiB uncompressed function-trace output + others
- The bdi outputs are also in there[2] Rough bandwidth tests
Read:
---gamix64:~# swapon -s Filename Type Size Used Priority /dev/sdb7 partition 4193276 0 -1 gamix64:~# dd if=/dev/sdb7 bs=1024 count=$[1024*1024*4] |pv >/dev/null 4GB 0:00:18 [ 226MB/s] [ <=> ]4193280+0 records in 4193280+0 records out4293918720 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 18.1509 s, 237 MB/s
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Write:
---gamix64:~# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=$[1024*1024*4] |pv >/root/Test/test1.bin 4194304+0 records inMB/s] [ <=> ] 4194304+0 records out 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 16.2039 s, 265 MB/s 4GB 0:00:15 [ 256MB/s] [ <=> ] ---
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Quoted 126 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : try_to_grab_pending <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550414us : del_timer <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pool <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : _raw_spin_lock <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : pwq_activate_delayed_work <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-pwq_activate_delayed_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : move_linked_works <-pwq_activate_delayed_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550415us : get_work_pwq <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : pwq_dec_nr_in_flight <-try_to_grab_pending [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : __queue_delayed_work <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : __queue_work <-mod_delayed_work_on [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : get_work_pool <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : _raw_spin_lock <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550416us : insert_work <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : get_pwq.isra.20 <-insert_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : wake_up_worker <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : wake_up_process <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : try_to_wake_up <-__queue_work [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550417us : task_waking_fair <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : select_task_rq_fair <-select_task_rq [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : idle_cpu <-select_task_rq_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : idle_cpu <-select_task_rq_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : cpus_share_cache <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550418us : _raw_spin_lock <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : activate_task <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : enqueue_task <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : update_rq_clock <-enqueue_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : enqueue_task_fair <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550419us : update_curr <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : __compute_runnable_contrib.part.55 <-update_entity_load_avg [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : account_entity_enqueue <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : update_cfs_shares <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550420us : __enqueue_entity <-enqueue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : hrtick_update <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : wq_worker_waking_up <-ttwu_do_activate.constprop.100 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : kthread_data <-wq_worker_waking_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : ttwu_do_wakeup <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : check_preempt_curr <-ttwu_do_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550421us : check_preempt_wakeup <-check_preempt_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : update_curr <-check_preempt_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : wakeup_preempt_entity.isra.53 <-check_preempt_wakeup [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550422us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-try_to_wake_up [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550423us : bdi_dirty_limit <-bdi_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550423us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550424us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__percpu_counter_sum [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : bdi_position_ratio <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : io_schedule_timeout <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : __delayacct_blkio_start <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : ktime_get_ts <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550424us : blk_flush_plug_list <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : schedule_timeout <-io_schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : lock_timer_base.isra.35 <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550425us : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave <-lock_timer_base.isra.35 [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : detach_if_pending <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : idle_cpu <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : internal_add_timer <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550425us : __internal_add_timer <-internal_add_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550426us : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore <-__mod_timer [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : schedule <-schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : __schedule <-schedule_timeout [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : rcu_note_context_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : rcu_sched_qs <-rcu_note_context_switch [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550426us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : deactivate_task <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : dequeue_task <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_rq_clock <-dequeue_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : dequeue_task_fair <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_curr <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550427us : cpuacct_charge <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : clear_buddies <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : account_entity_dequeue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_min_vruntime <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_cfs_shares <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550428us : update_curr <-update_cfs_shares [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_min_vruntime <-update_curr [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_dequeue <-update_cfs_shares [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_enqueue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_curr <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : update_cfs_rq_blocked_load <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : clear_buddies <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550429us : account_entity_dequeue <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : update_min_vruntime <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : update_cfs_shares <-dequeue_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : hrtick_update <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : put_prev_task_fair <-__schedule [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : pick_next_task_fair <-pick_next_task [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550430us : clear_buddies <-pick_next_task_fair [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2d... 48550431us : __dequeue_entity <-pick_next_task_fairbut the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything:
[ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_thread
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My suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
Thanks,
Rafael
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Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimitedbut the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything:
[ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.
Can we patch suspend-utils as follows? Alternatively, suspend-utils could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.
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Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.
Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity window it seems. :-)
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.
That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils binaries, however.
Rafael
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From: Johannes Weiner <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 17:43:05 -0400
Subject: [patch] s2disk: fix buffered IO throttling deadlock in frozen states2disk uses buffered IO when writing the snapshot image to disk. If it runs into the dirty limits, the kernel forces it to wait until the flusher threads clean some of the dirty pages. However, at this point s2disk already froze the system, including the flusher infrastructure, and the whole operation deadlocks.
Open the resume device with
O_SYNCto force flushing any dirty pages directly from thewrite()context before they accumulate and engage dirty throttling.Signed-off-by Johannes Weiner <[email protected]>--- suspend.c | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)suspend.c +0
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suspend.c int main(int argc, char *argv[]) · line 2442
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-1@@ -2436,7 +2436,7 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])suspend_error ("Could not create %s/%s." , chroot_path,"resume" ); goto Umount; } - resume_fd =open ("resume" ,O_RDWR ); + resume_fd =open ("resume" ,O_RDWR |O_SYNC );if (resume_fd <0 ) { ret = errno;suspend_error ("Could not open the resume device." );
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Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and just happened to work by chance in the past.
Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)
No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.
It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
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Quoted 59 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.
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That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Rafael
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Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.
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It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.
People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
Wow! Here I am to revive this topic in 2019! I have exactly the same problem, on ubuntu 18.04.2 with basically all kernels since 4.15.0-42 up to 5, which was all I tested, currently on 4.18.0-17-generic... I guess this has nothing to do with the kernel anyway.
It was working fine before, even with proprietary nvidia drivers which would generally cause a bug on the resume and not while saving the ram snapshot. I've been trying to tell this to the ubuntu guys and you can see my whole story with this problem right here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1819915
Shortly, I tried with or without nvidia modules enabled (or intel or using nouveau), many different kernels, disabled i915, and this is all get in all those different combinations:
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/417327528/i915.jpg
The event is pretty random and seems to be more likely to happen after 2 or 4 gb of ram is ever used (I have 16 in total), and nothing changes if later I reduce the ram usage later. But is random, I successfully hibernated with 11gb in use yesterday, just resumed and hibernated 5 seconds later without doing nothing else than running hibernate, and got freeze there.
This also happens randomly if there's just 3 or 2 gb in use, likely on the second attempt of after more than 5 minutes after the computer is on. What can be wrong here?
Quoted 112 lines · On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 20:25 Andrew Morton <[email protected]> wrote:
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 11 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <…
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Hi Oliver,
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Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see
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Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
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then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model
and
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just happened to work by chance in the past.
Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restorethem
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post-resume.
That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with
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suspend-utils
binaries, however.It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
Am 03.04.19 um 05:54 schrieb Matheus Fillipe:
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Wow! Here I am to revive this topic in 2019! I have exactly the same problem, on ubuntu 18.04.2 with basically all kernels since 4.15.0-42 up to 5, which was all I tested, currently on 4.18.0-17-generic... I guess this has nothing to do with the kernel anyway.
It was working fine before, even with proprietary nvidia drivers which would generally cause a bug on the resume and not while saving the ram snapshot. I've been trying to tell this to the ubuntu guys and you can see my whole story with this problem right here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1819915Shortly, I tried with or without nvidia modules enabled (or intel or using nouveau), many different kernels, disabled i915, and this is all get in all those different combinations:
https://launchpadlibrarian.net/417327528/i915.jpgThe event is pretty random and seems to be more likely to happen after 2 or 4 gb of ram is ever used (I have 16 in total), and nothing changes if later I reduce the ram usage later. But is random, I successfully hibernated with 11gb in use yesterday, just resumed and hibernated 5 seconds later without doing nothing else than running hibernate, and got freeze there.
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This also happens randomly if there's just 3 or 2 gb in use, likely on the second attempt of after more than 5 minutes after the computer is on. What can be wrong here?
The last time that I've encountered this issue was sometime in 2017 under conditions described in Comment 23. And that's true for s2both/s2disk and the kernel-methods.
It seems that you are using the uswsusp package. In that case it might be worth taking a look at the settings in /etc/suspend.conf. What works here is:
#image size = 3500000
early writeout = n
#threads = y
If this doesn't help, you should try hard to figure out what has changed from Ubuntu 18.04.1 to 18.04.2 as it worked with the former for you.
Am 03.04.19 um 01:25 schrieb Andrew Morton:
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I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Do you want this as a general rule? If so, an according message should be displayed after login into Bugzilla. How else would people know?
Regards!
Rainer Fiebig
Quoted 82 lines · Andrew Morton
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 1 line
Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines
It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Quoted 7 lines
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (SNAPSHOT_FREEZE ioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.
I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use O_SYNC in suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. Indeed O_SYNC is rather big hammer but using O_DIRECT should be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.
Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
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Am 03.04.19 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Kara:
Quoted 110 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 82 lines
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 1 line
Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
Quoted 3 lines
Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines
It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Quoted 7 lines
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.
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Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
Whether it's suspend-utils (or uswsusp) or not could be answered quickly by de-installing this package and using the kernel-methods instead.
Yes I can sorta confirm the bug is in uswsusp. I removed the package and pm-utils and used both "systemctl hibernate" and "echo disk >> /sys/power/state" to hibernate. It seems to succeed and shuts down, I am just not able to resume from it, which seems to be a classical problem solved just by setting the resume swap file/partition on grub. (which i tried and didn't work even with nvidia disabled)
Anyway uswsusp is still necessary because the default kernel hibernation doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia drivers as long as I know and tested.
Is there anyway I could get any workaround to this bug on my current OS by the way?
Quoted 122 lines · Rainer Fiebig
Am 03.04.19 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Kara:
Quoted 110 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 82 lines
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 1 line
Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 1 line
Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
Quoted 3 lines
Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines
It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Quoted 7 lines
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.Quoted 5 lines
Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
Whether it's suspend-utils (or uswsusp) or not could be answered quickly by de-installing this package and using the kernel-methods instead.
Am 03.04.19 um 18:59 schrieb Matheus Fillipe:
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Yes I can sorta confirm the bug is in uswsusp. I removed the package and pm-utils
Matheus,
there is no need to uninstall pm-utils. You actually need this to have comfortable suspend/hibernate.
The only additional option you will get from uswsusp is true s2both (which is nice, imo).
pm-utils provides something similar called "suspend-hybrid" which means that the computer suspends and after a configurable time wakes up again to go into hibernation.
and used both "systemctl hibernate" and "echo disk >>
Quoted 8 lines
/sys/power/state" to hibernate. It seems to succeed and shuts down, I am just not able to resume from it, which seems to be a classical problem solved just by setting the resume swap file/partition on grub. (which i tried and didn't work even with nvidia disabled)Anyway uswsusp is still necessary because the default kernel hibernation doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia drivers as long as I know and tested.
What doesn't work: hibernating or resuming?
And /var/log/pm-suspend.log might give you a clue what causes the problem.
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Is there anyway I could get any workaround to this bug on my current OS by the way?
*I* don't know, I don't use Ubuntu. But what I would do now is re-install pm-utils *without* uswsusp and make sure that you have got the swap-partition/file right in grub.cfg or menu.lst (grub legacy).
Then do a few pm-hibernate/resume and tell us what happened.
So long!
Quoted 124 lines · Rainer Fiebig
Quoted 122 lines
Am 03.04.19 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Kara:
Quoted 110 lines · Andrew Morton
Quoted 82 lines
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
Quoted 4 lines
Quoted 2 lines
Quoted 1 line
Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
Quoted 11 lines
Quoted 1 line
Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
Quoted 3 lines
Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 4 lines
It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Quoted 7 lines
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.Quoted 5 lines
Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
Whether it's suspend-utils (or uswsusp) or not could be answered quickly by de-installing this package and using the kernel-methods instead.
Okay, I reinstalled pm-utils and make sure uswsusp was removed (apt remove --purge uswsusp).
# fdisk -l | grep swap /dev/sda8 439762944 473214975 33452032 16G Linux swap root@matheus-Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming:/home/matheus# blkid /dev/sda8 /dev/sda8: UUID="70d967e6-ad52-4c21-baf0-01a813ccc6ac" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="666096bb-0e72-431a-b981-9fd0c7e553ee"
I have resume=70d967e6-ad52-4c21-baf0-01a813ccc6ac variable set in all linux comamnd kernel (GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT) as you can see on my attached boot-sequence. You can see more info about my setup and what I already did here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1819915
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What doesn't work: hibernating or resuming?
And/var/log/pm-suspend.logmight give you a clue what causes the problem.
Resuming doesn't work and still don't work.I tried setting either my partition to /dev/sda8 or the uiid. It simply boots as if it was the fist boot.
Quoted 34 lines · Rainer Fiebig
Am 03.04.19 um 18:59 schrieb Matheus Fillipe:
Quoted 2 lines
Yes I can sorta confirm the bug is in uswsusp. I removed the package and pm-utils
Matheus,
there is no need to uninstall pm-utils. You actually need this to have comfortable suspend/hibernate.
The only additional option you will get from uswsusp is true s2both (which is nice, imo).
pm-utils provides something similar called "suspend-hybrid" which means that the computer suspends and after a configurable time wakes up again to go into hibernation.
and used both "systemctl hibernate" and "echo disk >>
Quoted 8 lines
/sys/power/state" to hibernate. It seems to succeed and shuts down, I am just not able to resume from it, which seems to be a classical problem solved just by setting the resume swap file/partition on grub. (which i tried and didn't work even with nvidia disabled)Anyway uswsusp is still necessary because the default kernel hibernation doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia drivers as long as I know and tested.
What doesn't work: hibernating or resuming?
And/var/log/pm-suspend.logmight give you a clue what causes the problem.Quoted 3 lines
Is there anyway I could get any workaround to this bug on my current OS by the way?
Quoted 134 lines
*I* don't know, I don't use Ubuntu. But what I would do now is re-install pm-utils *without* uswsusp and make sure that you have got the swap-partition/file right in grub.cfg or menu.lst (grub legacy).
Then do a few pm-hibernate/resume and tell us what happened.
So long!
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Am 03.04.19 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Kara:
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I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
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It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
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Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.Quoted 5 lines
Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
Whether it's suspend-utils (or uswsusp) or not could be answered quickly by de-installing this package and using the kernel-methods instead.
Initial commandline parameters:
qua abr 3 13:02:38 -03 2019: Running hooks for hibernate. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000kernel-change hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000kernel-change hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000record-status hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000record-status hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate:
Linux matheus-Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming 4.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Module Size Used by
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bpfilter 16384 0
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arc4 16384 2
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intel_rapl 20480 0
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
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dell_smm_hwmon 16384 0
coretemp 16384 0
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snd_usb_audio 225280 3
crc32_pclmul 16384 0
snd_hda_codec_realtek 106496 1
ghash_clmulni_intel 16384 0
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pcbc 16384 0
aesni_intel 200704 6
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btusb 45056 0
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media 40960 2 videodev,uvcvideo
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ecdh_generic 24576 2 bluetooth
snd_seq_midi 16384 0
ath10k_pci 40960 0
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ath 32768 1 ath10k_core
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serio_raw 16384 0
intel_pch_thermal 16384 0
int3403_thermal 16384 0
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lp 20480 0
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async_pq 16384 2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
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Mem: 16288036 844604 13847012 37908 1596420 15112004
Swap: 16726012 0 16726012/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_grub-common hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/10_grub-common hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/20tuxonice hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/20tuxonice hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/40inputattach hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/40inputattach hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50unload_alx hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50unload_alx hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate:
Selected interface 'p2p-dev-wlp3s0'
OK/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron hibernate hibernate:
Warning: Stopping anacron.service, but it can still be activated by:
anacron.timer/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler hibernate hibernate:
Kernel modesetting video driver detected, not using quirks. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/999mounta hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/999mounta hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/99_hibernate_scripts hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/99_hibernate_scripts hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video hibernate hibernate: success.
qua abr 3 13:02:38 -03 2019: performing hibernate
Initial commandline parameters:
qua abr 3 15:24:51 -03 2019: Running hooks for hibernate. Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000kernel-change hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000kernel-change hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000record-status hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000record-status hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate:
Linux matheus-Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming 4.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Module Size Used by
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inet_diag 24576 1 tcp_diag
unix_diag 16384 0
snd_seq_dummy 16384 0
rfcomm 77824 16
iptable_filter 16384 0
bpfilter 16384 0
ccm 20480 6
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vboxpci 24576 0
vboxnetadp 28672 0
vboxnetflt 28672 0
cmac 16384 1
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bnep 20480 2
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llc 16384 2 bridge,stp
binfmt_misc 20480 1
nls_iso8859_1 16384 1
arc4 16384 2
hid_multitouch 20480 0
intel_rapl 20480 0
dell_laptop 20480 1
x86_pkg_temp_thermal 16384 0
dell_smm_hwmon 16384 0
intel_powerclamp 16384 0
coretemp 16384 0
uvcvideo 94208 0
kvm_intel 208896 0
snd_hda_codec_realtek 106496 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 73728 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
kvm 626688 1 kvm_intel
videobuf2_vmalloc 16384 1 uvcvideo
irqbypass 16384 1 kvm
videobuf2_memops 16384 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2 24576 1 uvcvideo
crct10dif_pclmul 16384 0
videobuf2_common 40960 2 videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo
crc32_pclmul 16384 0
videodev 188416 3 videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
snd_hda_intel 40960 6
ghash_clmulni_intel 16384 0
pcbc 16384 0
snd_usb_audio 225280 4
snd_hda_codec 126976 3 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
btusb 45056 0
media 40960 2 videodev,uvcvideo
btrtl 16384 1 btusb
snd_usbmidi_lib 32768 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hda_core 81920 4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
btbcm 16384 1 btusb
aesni_intel 200704 6
btintel 20480 1 btusb
snd_hwdep 20480 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
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snd_pcm 98304 8 snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
aes_x86_64 20480 1 aesni_intel
crypto_simd 16384 1 aesni_intel
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ath10k_pci 40960 0
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snd_seq_midi 16384 0
snd_seq_midi_event 16384 1 snd_seq_midi
ath 32768 1 ath10k_core
intel_cstate 20480 0
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intel_rapl_perf 16384 0
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dell_wmi 16384 0
serio_raw 16384 0
cfg80211 667648 3 ath,mac80211,ath10k_core
idma64 20480 0
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snd 81920 32 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi
virt_dma 16384 1 idma64
dcdbas 16384 1 dell_smbios
mei_me 40960 0
wmi_bmof 16384 0
soundcore 16384 1 snd
intel_lpss_pci 20480 0
dell_wmi_descriptor 16384 2 dell_wmi,dell_smbios
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processor_thermal_device 16384 0
intel_lpss 16384 1 intel_lpss_pci
intel_soc_dts_iosf 16384 1 processor_thermal_device
intel_pch_thermal 16384 0
int3403_thermal 16384 0
intel_hid 16384 0
int3400_thermal 16384 0
sparse_keymap 16384 2 intel_hid,dell_wmi
acpi_thermal_rel 16384 1 int3400_thermal
int3402_thermal 16384 0
int340x_thermal_zone 16384 3 int3403_thermal,int3402_thermal,processor_thermal_device
mac_hid 16384 0
acpi_pad 180224 0
sch_fq_codel 20480 2
nvidia_uvm 798720 0
vhci_hcd 49152 0
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parport_pc 36864 0
ppdev 20480 0
lp 20480 0
sunrpc 352256 1
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binder_linux 102400 0
ashmem_linux 16384 0
ip_tables 28672 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 40960 2 iptable_filter,ip_tables
autofs4 40960 2
btrfs 1163264 0
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raid10 53248 0
raid456 151552 0
async_raid6_recov 20480 1 raid456
async_memcpy 16384 2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
async_pq 16384 2 raid456,async_raid6_recov
async_xor 16384 3 async_pq,raid456,async_raid6_recov
async_tx 16384 5 async_pq,async_memcpy,async_xor,raid456,async_raid6_recov
xor 24576 2 async_xor,btrfs
raid6_pq 114688 4 async_pq,btrfs,raid456,async_raid6_recov
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raid1 40960 0
raid0 20480 0
multipath 16384 0
linear 16384 0
dm_mirror 24576 0
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hid_generic 16384 0
usbhid 49152 0
nvidia_drm 40960 13
nvidia_modeset 1085440 33 nvidia_drm
nvidia 17600512 1683 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
i915 1740800 3
mxm_wmi 16384 0
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 i915
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sysfillrect 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
fb_sys_fops 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
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drm 458752 16 drm_kms_helper,nvidia_drm,i915
r8169 86016 0
ahci 40960 5
ipmi_devintf 20480 0
mii 16384 1 r8169
libahci 32768 1 ahci
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i2c_hid 20480 0
hid 122880 4 i2c_hid,usbhid,hid_multitouch,hid_generic
wmi 24576 5 dell_wmi,wmi_bmof,dell_smbios,dell_wmi_descriptor,mxm_wmi
video 45056 3 dell_wmi,dell_laptop,i915
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 16288036 8226200 1094072 543812 6967764 7254512
Swap: 16726012 0 16726012/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00powersave hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_grub-common hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/10_grub-common hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/10_unattended-upgrades-hibernate hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/20tuxonice hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/20tuxonice hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/40inputattach hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/40inputattach hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50unload_alx hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50unload_alx hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate:
Selected interface 'p2p-dev-wlp3s0'
OK/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/60_wpa_supplicant hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/75modules hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron hibernate hibernate:
Warning: Stopping anacron.service, but it can still be activated by:
anacron.timer/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95hdparm-apm hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led hibernate hibernate: not applicable.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler hibernate hibernate:
Kernel modesetting video driver detected, not using quirks. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98video-quirk-db-handler hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/999mounta hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/999mounta hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /etc/pm/sleep.d/99_hibernate_scripts hibernate hibernate:/etc/pm/sleep.d/99_hibernate_scripts hibernate hibernate: success.
Running hook /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video hibernate hibernate:/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video hibernate hibernate: success.
qua abr 3 15:24:51 -03 2019: performing hibernate
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Am 03.04.19 um 22:05 schrieb Matheus Fillipe:
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Okay I found a way to get it working and there was also a huge mistake on my last boot-config, the resume was commented :P
I basically followed this: https://askubuntu.com/a/1064114
but changed to:
resume=/dev/disk/by-uuid/70d967e6-ad52-4c21-baf0-01a813ccc6ac (just the uuid wouldnt work) and this is probably the most important thing to do.it worked!
I also set the resume variable in initramfs to my swap partition but this might nor be so important anyway since it's automatically detected.
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I tested both systemctl hibernate and pm-hibernate, i guess they call the same thing anyway. I attached a screenshot. Seems to be working fine without uswsusp and with nvidia proprietary drivers!
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Am 03.04.19 um 18:59 schrieb Matheus Fillipe:
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Yes I can sorta confirm the bug is in uswsusp. I removed the package and pm-utils
Matheus,
there is no need to uninstall pm-utils. You actually need this to have comfortable suspend/hibernate.
The only additional option you will get from uswsusp is true s2both (which is nice, imo).
pm-utils provides something similar called "suspend-hybrid" which means that the computer suspends and after a configurable time wakes up again to go into hibernation.
and used both "systemctl hibernate" and "echo disk >>
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/sys/power/state" to hibernate. It seems to succeed and shuts down, I am just not able to resume from it, which seems to be a classical problem solved just by setting the resume swap file/partition on grub. (which i tried and didn't work even with nvidia disabled)Anyway uswsusp is still necessary because the default kernel hibernation doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia drivers as long as I know and tested.
What doesn't work: hibernating or resuming?
And/var/log/pm-suspend.logmight give you a clue what causes the problem.Quoted 3 lines
Is there anyway I could get any workaround to this bug on my current OS by the way?
*I* don't know, I don't use Ubuntu. But what I would do now is re-install pm-utils *without* uswsusp and make sure that you have got the swap-partition/file right in grub.cfg or menu.lst (grub legacy).
Then do a few pm-hibernate/resume and tell us what happened.
So long!
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Am 03.04.19 um 11:34 schrieb Jan Kara:
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I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1]
attached.I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail
Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
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It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
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Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.Quoted 5 lines
Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days? Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
Honza
Whether it's suspend-utils (or uswsusp) or not could be answered quickly by de-installing this package and using the kernel-methods instead.
So you got hibernate working now with pm-utils *and* the prop. Nvidia drivers. That's good - although a bit contrary to what you said in Comment 29:
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Anyway uswsusp is still necessary because the default kernel hibernation doesn't work with the proprietary nvidia drivers as long as I know and tested
Never mind. Stick with it if you don't need s2both.
What still puzzles me is that while others are having problems, suspend-utils/uswsusp work for me almost 100 % of the time, except for a few extreme test-cases in the past. You also said that it worked "flawlessly" for you until you upgraded your system.
So I'm wondering whether used-up swap space might play a role in this matter, too. At least for the cases that I've seen on my system, I can't rule this out. And when I look at the screenshot you provided in Comment 27 (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/417327528/i915.jpg), sparse swap-space could have been a factor in that case as well. Because roughly 3.5 GB free swap-space doesn't seem much for a 16-GB-RAM box.
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So you got hibernate working now with pm-utils*and* the prop. Nvidia drivers. That's good - although a bit contrary to what you said in Comment 29:
I was told so, long time ago struggling to get nvidia prop to resume from hibernation, I found out that uswsusp was better for it (googling or on irc), and it indeed worked better, or with less effort at least, back then. I made that comment thinking this was true but I just proved myself wrong...
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till puzzles me is that while others are having problems, suspend-utils/uswsusp work for me almost 100 % of the time, except for a few extreme test-cases in the past. You also said that it worked "flawlessly" for yo
Yes! It worked pretty good on version 18.04.1 of ubuntu with kernel 4.15.0-42 and 41 using uswsusp. There was a long problem with nvidia props that wouldn't let the system resume, but this was fixed when I upgraded to the latest version of the 415 nvidia driver. I kept like one month just hibernating to switch to windows and coming back to the restored snapshot of linux. You can check my apt history here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/415602746/aptHistory.log. At the Start-Date: 2019-02-02 15:40:45, I'm 100% sure it was perfect. I am 100% sure that it wasn't already working anymore having the s2disk freeze issue at Start-Date: 2019-03-05 10:38:4.
uswsusp also worked fine on ubuntu 16.04, but I dont remember the kernel versions. Now I'm currently with the nvidia 418.56, ubuntu 18.04.2, kernel 4.18.0-17-generic and hibernation with pm-utils works. I haven't found any major problem with it besides failing to suspend to ram yesterday, which I don't know if is related to it or not, but today I tested it after and before hibernation and seems to be ok.
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So I'm wondering whether used-up swap space might play a role in this matter, too. At least for the cases that I've seen on my system, I can't rule this out. And when I look at the screenshot you provided in Comment 27 (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/417327528/i915.jpg), sparse swap-space could have been a factor in that case as well. Because roughly 3.5 GB free swap-space doesn't seem much for a 16-GB-RAM box.
On my many tests with uswsusp and a 16gb swap partition and 16 gb of ram, I noticed that it would be less likely to fail when less than something about 2 gb of ram, like just after boot up, it would though after the 3rd or 4th followed hibernation cycle. If after the boot up I allocate more than that value if would be much more likely to happen like always on the 2nd attempt, and if more than around 6gb would fail on the first attempt.
Those aren't sure values, sometimes it failed regardless of ram usage, specially on my latest tests. also once it hibernated with more than 11gb ram usage and failed on the second attempt. So this is all happening pretty randomly. What I described above is just most of the cases and maybe this is just random anyway.
Quoted 110 lines · CEST Jan Kara
Quoted 82 lines · Andrew Morton
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
Quoted 63 lines · On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki"…
Quoted 62 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 36 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 35 lines · Johannes Weiner
Quoted 34 lines · Rafael J. Wysocki
Quoted 33 lines · Johannes Weiner
Hi Oliver,
Quoted 7 lines · Oliver Winker
Hello,
1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1] attached.
I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
Thanks, this looks interesting.
balance_dirty_pages()wakes up thebdi_wqworkqueue as it should:[ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything: [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_threadMy suspicion is that this fails because the
bdi_wqis frozen at this point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be written in one go without being throttled; followed by anfsync()that then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.Quoted 7 lines
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Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
just happened to work by chance in the past.Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large opportunity
window it seems. :-)No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
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Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
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Alternatively, suspend-utils
could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them post-resume.That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing suspend-utils
binaries, however.Quoted 8 lines
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It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
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Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or something else.
I've refreshed my memory wrt this bug and I believe the bug is really on the side of suspend-utils (uswsusp or however it is called). They are low level system tools, they ask the kernel to freeze all processes (
SNAPSHOT_FREEZEioctl), and then they rely on buffered writeback (which is relatively heavyweight infrastructure) to work. That is wrong in my opinion.I can see Johanness was suggesting in comment 11 to use
O_SYNCin suspend-utils which worked but was too slow. IndeedO_SYNCis rather big hammer but usingO_DIRECTshould be what they need and get better performance - no additional buffering in the kernel, no dirty throttling, etc. They only need their buffer & device offsets sector aligned - they seem to be even page aligned in suspend-utils so they should be fine. And if the performance still sucks (currently they appear to do mostly random 4k writes so it probably would for rotating disks), they could use AIO DIO to get multiple pages in flight (as many as they dare to allocate buffers) and then the IO scheduler will reorder things as good as it can and they should get reasonable performance.
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Is there someone who works on suspend-utils these days?
Not that I know of.
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Because the repo I've found on kernel.org seems to be long dead (last commit in 2012).
And that's where the things are as of today, AFAICS.
Cheers,
Rafael