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PATCH 1/1 mm: Revert x86_64 and arm64 ELF_ET_DYN_BASE base

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

Cc stable at vger.kernel.org
---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		(2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
 
arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index 1c18d83d3f09..9aeb91935ce0 100644
@@ -247,11 +247,11 @@ extern int force_personality32;
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
 #define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		(mmap_is_ia32() ? 0x000400000UL : \
-						  0x100000000UL)
+						  (TASK_SIZE / 3 * 2))
 
 /* This yields a mask that user programs can use to figure out what
    instruction set this CPU supports.  This could be done in user space,
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Quoted 36 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

Cc stable at vger.kernel.org
---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +0 -0
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 

arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h line 122

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arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		(2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__

I assume this is going via akpm like the original commit?

Will

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#2 lore raw
Quoted 46 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 45 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

Cc stable at vger.kernel.org
---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              (2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
Quoted 5 lines

arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h line 122

Quoted 1 line
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +0 -0
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__

I assume this is going via akpm like the original commit?

That's my expectation, yup. Thanks for the Ack!

-Kees

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#3 lore raw

ping to akpm to please pick this up for -mm...

Quoted 60 lines · Kees Cook
Quoted 46 lines · Will Deacon
Quoted 45 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

Cc stable at vger.kernel.org
---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              (2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
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arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h line 122

Quoted 1 line
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +0 -0
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__

I assume this is going via akpm like the original commit?

That's my expectation, yup. Thanks for the Ack!

-Kees

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Kees Cook
Pixel Security

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In reply to Kees Cook

*extreme thread[1] necromancy*

Quoted 6 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

Quoted 8 lines

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

I happened to be looking at this again today, and wondered where things stood. It seems like ASan's mappings are documented here:
https://github.com/google/sanitizers/wiki/AddressSanitizerAlgorithm#64-bit

This implies that it would be safe to move the ELF_ET_DYN_BASE from 0x555555554000 down to 0x200000000000, since the shadow map ends at 0x10007fff7fff. (Well, anything above there would work, I was just picking a "round" number above it. We could just as well use 0x100080000000, I think.)

Is this correct? I'd like to open up some more room between mmap and stack...

Thanks!

-Kees

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20170807201542.GA21271@beast/

Quoted 58 lines

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		(2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
 
arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index 1c18d83d3f09..9aeb91935ce0 100644
@@ -247,11 +247,11 @@ extern int force_personality32;
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
 #define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE		(mmap_is_ia32() ? 0x000400000UL : \
-						  0x100000000UL)
+						  (TASK_SIZE / 3 * 2))
 
 /* This yields a mask that user programs can use to figure out what
    instruction set this CPU supports.  This could be done in user space,
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Quoted 23 lines · Kees Cook

*extreme thread[1] necromancy*

Quoted 6 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

Quoted 8 lines

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

I happened to be looking at this again today, and wondered where things stood. It seems like ASan's mappings are documented here:
https://github.com/google/sanitizers/wiki/AddressSanitizerAlgorithm#64-bit

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This implies that it would be safe to move the ELF_ET_DYN_BASE from 0x555555554000 down to 0x200000000000, since the shadow map ends at 0x10007fff7fff. (Well, anything above there would work, I was just picking a "round" number above it. We could just as well use 0x100080000000, I think.)

Is this correct? I'd like to open up some more room between mmap and stack...

Note that there is also TSAN and MSAN with their own mappings. These are also different per-arch, e.g. TSAN/Linux/x86_64:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L48-L58

Search "linux/" in that file for other arches, e.g.:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L156-L165
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L187-L196
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L218-L227
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L252-L263

And MSAN mappings:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/msan/msan.h#L44-L61

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Thanks!

-Kees

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20170807201542.GA21271@beast/

Quoted 55 lines

The new 32-bit PIE base is fine for ASan (since it matches the ET_EXEC base), so only the 64-bit PIE base needs to be reverted to let x86 and arm64 ASan binaries run again. Future changes to the 64-bit PIE base on these architectures can be made optional once a more dynamic method for dealing with AddressSanitizer is found. (e.g. always loading PIE into the mmap region for marked binaries.)

---
 arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h | 4 ++--
 arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h   | 4 ++--
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
arch/arm64/include/asm/elf.h +2 -2
index acae781f7359..3288c2b36731 100644
@@ -114,10 +114,10 @@
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
-#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              0x100000000UL
+#define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              (2 * TASK_SIZE_64 / 3)
 
 #ifndef __ASSEMBLY__
 
arch/x86/include/asm/elf.h +2 -3
index 1c18d83d3f09..9aeb91935ce0 100644
@@ -247,11 +247,11 @@ extern int force_personality32;
 
 /*
  * This is the base location for PIE (ET_DYN with INTERP) loads. On
- * 64-bit, this is raised to 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
+ * 64-bit, this is above 4GB to leave the entire 32-bit address
  * space open for things that want to use the area for 32-bit pointers.
  */
 #define ELF_ET_DYN_BASE              (mmap_is_ia32() ? 0x000400000UL : \
-                                               0x100000000UL)
+                                               (TASK_SIZE / 3 * 2))
 
 /* This yields a mask that user programs can use to figure out what
    instruction set this CPU supports.  This could be done in user space,
--

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#6 lore raw
Quoted 24 lines · Dmitry Vyukov
Quoted 23 lines · Kees Cook

*extreme thread[1] necromancy*

Quoted 6 lines · Kees Cook

Moving the x86_64 and arm64 PIE base from 0x555555554000 to 0x000100000000 broke AddressSanitizer. This is a partial revert of:

commit eab09532d400 ("binfmt_elf: use ELF_ET_DYN_BASE only for PIE") commit 02445990a96e ("arm64: move ELF_ET_DYN_BASE to 4GB / 4MB")

Quoted 8 lines

The AddressSanitizer tool has hard-coded expectations about where executable mappings are loaded. The motivation for changing the PIE base in the above commits was to avoid the Stack-Clash CVEs that allowed executable mappings to get too close to heap and stack. This was mainly a problem on 32-bit, but the 64-bit bases were moved too, in an effort to proactively protect those systems (proofs of concept do exist that show 64-bit collisions, but other recent changes to fix stack accounting and setuid behaviors will minimize the impact).

I happened to be looking at this again today, and wondered where things stood. It seems like ASan's mappings are documented here:
https://github.com/google/sanitizers/wiki/AddressSanitizerAlgorithm#64-bit

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Quoted 8 lines

This implies that it would be safe to move the ELF_ET_DYN_BASE from 0x555555554000 down to 0x200000000000, since the shadow map ends at 0x10007fff7fff. (Well, anything above there would work, I was just picking a "round" number above it. We could just as well use 0x100080000000, I think.)

Is this correct? I'd like to open up some more room between mmap and stack...

Thanks for the details!

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Note that there is also TSAN and MSAN with their own mappings. These are also different per-arch, e.g. TSAN/Linux/x86_64:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L48-L58
Search "linux/" in that file for other arches, e.g.:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L156-L165
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L187-L196
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L218-L227
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/tsan/rtl/tsan_platform.h#L252-L263

Depending on VA size, these are effectively all below 0x3800 0000 0000.

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And MSAN mappings:
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/d2a26a7bd5fc7cc5752337b7f4f999642feb37dc/compiler-rt/lib/msan/msan.h#L44-L61

These are all below 0x1000 0000 0000.

So there probably isn't much benefit in reducing the PIE program position below the current 0x55....

Okay, thanks!

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