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IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux

DISCUSSION Shane W. 6 participants 9 messages Jun 29, 1999 – Jun 30, 1999 1 message not in the archive MIPS

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Hi,

I am trying to install HardHat linux on an "Indy r5000", the SCSI disk
was blank and I was running into problems so I did a mkfs on it. Now the install script keeps asking me to initalize the drive. I do not have access to an Irix machine to repartation it or anything of the such. Any ideas?

-s

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Quoted 9 lines · Shane W.

Subject: IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux
Hi,

I am trying to install HardHat linux on an "Indy r5000", the SCSI disk
was blank and I was running into problems so I did a mkfs on it. Now the install script keeps asking me to initalize the drive. I do not have access to an Irix machine to repartation it or anything of the such. Any ideas?

If you have an IRIX operating system CD available (must be marked with "Contains installation tools"), you could boot the disk maint tool "fx" from the CD.

Contact me directly if you have the CD (and CDROM player) and need specific instructions on how to repartition.

-Roald

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I do have an IRIX CD-ROM, but I do not have a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Am I out of luck as far as installing SGI Linux goes?

-s

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Quoted 9 lines · Shane W.

Subject: IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux
Hi,

I am trying to install HardHat linux on an "Indy r5000", the SCSI disk
was blank and I was running into problems so I did a mkfs on it. Now the install script keeps asking me to initalize the drive. I do not have access to an Irix machine to repartation it or anything of the such. Any ideas?

If you have an IRIX operating system CD available (must be marked with "Contains installation tools"), you could boot the disk maint tool "fx" from the CD.

Contact me directly if you have the CD (and CDROM player) and need specific instructions on how to repartition.

-Roald

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| Company: SGI Norge A/S                                      |
| Email:   [email protected]          Tlf:          +47 5184 3633 |
| Addr:    St Olavsgt 9           Mobil:        +47 909 33 903|
|          N-4004 Stavanger       VMail (SGI):  870-4679      |
|          NORWAY                 VMail(ext):   67114679      |
|                                                             |
| SGI Norway's WWW Home Page: http://www.sgi.no               |

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No, you're not. Install linux 2.2.7 (.9?) on any i386 and enable experimental options and EFS.

Then you should be able to mount the CD on the linux-i386 box and set up tftp, bootp and nfs for remote booting/installing. (You don't need nfs for booting fx, though.)
Something for a rainy day....

Dag B

Quoted 4 lines · Shane W.

Subject: Re: IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux
I do have an IRIX CD-ROM, but I do not have a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Am I out of luck as far as installing SGI Linux goes?

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-s

Quoted 13 lines · Roald Lygre
Quoted 9 lines · Shane W.

Subject: IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux
Hi,

I am trying to install HardHat linux on an "Indy r5000", the SCSI disk
was blank and I was running into problems so I did a mkfs on it. Now the install script keeps asking me to initalize the drive. I do not have access to an Irix machine to repartation it or anything of the such. Any ideas?

If you have an IRIX operating system CD available (must be marked with "Contains installation tools"), you could boot the disk maint tool "fx"

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the CD.

Contact me directly if you have the CD (and CDROM player) and need specific instructions on how to repartition.

-Roald

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| Company: SGI Norge A/S                                      |
| Email:   [email protected]          Tlf:          +47 5184 3633 |
| Addr:    St Olavsgt 9           Mobil:        +47 909 33 903|
|          N-4004 Stavanger       VMail (SGI):  870-4679      |
|          NORWAY                 VMail(ext):   67114679      |
|                                                             |
| SGI Norway's WWW Home Page: http://www.sgi.no               |

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Quoted 7 lines · Dag Bakke

No, you're not. Install linux 2.2.7 (.9?) on any i386 and enable experimental options and EFS.

Then you should be able to mount the CD on the linux-i386 box and set up tftp, bootp and nfs for remote booting/installing. (You don't need nfs for booting fx, though.)
Something for a rainy day....

Hmm, is there a FAQ on how to set up such an environment ?

I've alreayd tried to boot/install from a remote mounted cdrom. This always results in an error. Then I've tried to copy the Irix-CD to a directory and install from this directory. I was able to invoke fx on the Indy, but I was not able to proceed with the installation.

(During Linux/SGI install I made propably an error which results in a corrupted Indy-filesystem - so I'm forced to reinstall Irix on my Indy.)

//Tom

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Quoted 10 lines · Tom Woelfel
Quoted 7 lines · Dag Bakke

No, you're not. Install linux 2.2.7 (.9?) on any i386 and enable experimental options and EFS.

Then you should be able to mount the CD on the linux-i386 box and set up tftp, bootp and nfs for remote booting/installing. (You don't need nfs for booting fx, though.)
Something for a rainy day....

Hmm, is there a FAQ on how to set up such an environment ?

my friend and I managed to upgrade Irix6.2 to Irix6.5 on a Indigo2 with no CD-ROM this way.

It involved a Linux box with an early 2.3.x kernel on it [2.3.2 I think] with efs support compiled it.

It took many hours of tweaking the booptab file and tftp, but finally we got the SASH off the Irix CD to load, and eventually a miniroot.

The one thing that really helped was putting the Debug Messages in bootp up as high as possible, so you can see what files the SGI is requesting, and then mess around with your bootp server until it gets the file it is looking for.

I would be a bit more explicit but the final breakthrough was made late at night after many, many, many randomly guessed attempts, and we were so happy to get it working we were afraid to try and replicate it because we never thought we'd figure it out again.

Vince

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As I understand it, you only need to partition the disk with the SGI tools (fx).
(If this is wrong, please feel free to correct me.)
Thus, you only need bootp and tftp to boot fx.

I am sure there is a linux tftp and bootp howto somewehere. If not, please read the man-pages and write the HOWTO afterwards.

To boot fx on the Indy from the prom monitor (command monitor) enter:
setenv -p netaddr 123.456.789.123
boot -f bootp()remotemachine:/path/to/stand/fx.ARCS

And please note that 'remotemachine' should be by name, not IPaddress. Please avoid routers between client and server. (It is doable, but often requires more work.) If the server uses a 'non-standard' (very narrow) netmask, you may have to tweak the bootp-line somewhat. I don't remember the exact syntax. Let us know if this becomes a problem.

Dag B

Quoted 5 lines · Vince Weaver

Subject: Re: IRIX Partations with HardHat Linux

Quoted 2 lines · Tom Woelfel
Quoted 1 line · Dag Bakke

No, you're not. Install linux 2.2.7 (.9?) on any i386 and enable

experimental

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options and EFS.

Then you should be able to mount the CD on the linux-i386 box and set up

tftp,

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bootp and nfs for remote booting/installing. (You don't need nfs for

booting

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fx, though.)
Something for a rainy day....

Hmm, is there a FAQ on how to set up such an environment ?

my friend and I managed to upgrade Irix6.2 to Irix6.5 on a Indigo2 with no CD-ROM this way.

It involved a Linux box with an early 2.3.x kernel on it [2.3.2 I think] with efs support compiled it.

It took many hours of tweaking the booptab file and tftp, but finally we got the SASH off the Irix CD to load, and eventually a miniroot.

The one thing that really helped was putting the Debug Messages in bootp up as high as possible, so you can see what files the SGI is requesting, and then mess around with your bootp server until it gets the file it is looking for.

I would be a bit more explicit but the final breakthrough was made late at night after many, many, many randomly guessed attempts, and we were so happy to get it working we were afraid to try and replicate it because we never thought we'd figure it out again.

Vince

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\ /\ /\ / Vince Weaver
\/__\/__\/ [email protected] http://www.glue.umd.edu/~weave
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Dag Bakke   -   System Support Engineer, SGI Norway
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        SGI Norge			tel:	67 11 46 01
        Strandveien 20			fax:	67 11 47 00
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Quoted 4 lines · Dag Bakke

As I understand it, you only need to partition the disk with the SGI tools (fx).
(If this is wrong, please feel free to correct me.)
Thus, you only need bootp and tftp to boot fx.

Yep.

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To boot fx on the Indy from the prom monitor (command monitor) enter:
setenv -p netaddr 123.456.789.123
boot -f bootp()remotemachine:/path/to/stand/fx.ARCS

After endeavouring with the bootp/tftp options for a couple of hours I finally managed to get sash or fx loaded. But I've seen lot of rejected requests during this session from the i386 server. But what's the next step ? Do I have to change the bootfile-entry in bootptab to point to the next requested file ? (Ooops, I'm at work - so I don't have access to my Indy, but after partitioning the disk the Indy requested something like sash(NN).)

I will try it once again and write down my experiences.

//Tom

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Quoted 7 lines · Dag Bakke

No, you're not. Install linux 2.2.7 (.9?) on any i386 and enable experimental options and EFS.

Then you should be able to mount the CD on the linux-i386 box and set up tftp, bootp and nfs for remote booting/installing. (You don't need nfs for booting fx, though.)
Something for a rainy day....

This would probably be much easier if you used the initrd stuff Thomas B. recently wrote. This is not tested, but I think it may work. If it works you may setup the initrd partition so that you have the tools you need to partition the SCSI harddrive with a decent EFS disklabel (this partition is afterwards appended on the end of the kernel). I think Thomas has been working on a new redhat installer using the initrd, but I doubt he finished it.

What's the current status?

Ulf