Again: Linux 2.4.x and AMD Athlon
Hello all,
Quoted 3 lines · Thomas Foerster
I got only one oops in
inode.c(forget the actual line number) The rest are random application crashes on XFree 4.0.3 (GeForce2 GTS, nVidi DRI (older version)) The System NEVER hangs, only applications crash!
Some more experiences with AMD and X-related crashes:
-> I've an Athlon 800 on a Epox EP7KXA Mobo (686A) with 512MB RAM and no nVIDIA graphics card, but ATI XPERT 2000.
I've got similar problems with 2.4.x-kernels and I would be very glad, if the cause could be found. The problem is more than half of a year old!
I posted it in this list some time ago (more than once) - nobody seemed to be interested. I posted it 2 times to the X bug list - no interest.
But as I can see now, the problem seems to be greater than I thoght. Therefore I write here some of my latest experiences:
# X 4.1 (if I remember right) and 2.4.6 -> a lot off solid crashes (even pinging the machine didn't work) while starting X, no matter if DRI was turned on or off; no matter if agp was loaded or not. Unuseable.
# X-CVS and 2.4.6ac2 eg. is working fine - with DRI turned on - I didn't test it without DRI.
# Before, I tried to run X 4.1 and ac-Kernels. They have been crashing too as described above. That's why I'm using X CVS.
# If I try to run X CVS and vanilla 2.4.6, I'm getting blinking screens after some restarts of X or after long working with X. It's unuseable, too.
For me, it seems to be not a nVIDIA related problem.
The question for me is:
where are the differences between X CVS / X 4.1 and Vanilla / ac-patches
- and there combinations.
Why is the combination 2.4.6ac2 or the ac-patches before and X CVS (about 4 weeks old; not DRI-CVS; but they have been merged as far as I know) working for me without any problems?
Did you try this combination too? It would bee interersting if it would work for you too!
Regards,
Andreas Hartmann
Hello,
I have a data point that may be of some value. I have 3 athlon systems running a variety of FreeBSD/NetBSD/Linux and I experience rock solid stability, even with K7 optimized 2.4 kernels. The things that seem to be different for me are that:
1) I always use scsi disk subsystems (adaptec or symbios).
2) I do not use nvidia graphics cards.
My boards are Abit (kt7raid, kt7) and Asus (a7v). I have taken no special power supply precautions beyond using AMD certified units. I'm very curious as to why I have had such an excellent experience (I'm unlikely to purchase an intel cpu at this point), even though I use the dreaded via chipsets.
I hope that someone finds this useful. I'd be happy to supply configs or other details if desired.
skd
Quoted 57 lines · Andreas Hartmann
Hello all,
Quoted 3 lines · Thomas Foerster
I got only one oops in
inode.c(forget the actual line number) The rest are random application crashes on XFree 4.0.3 (GeForce2 GTS, nVidi DRI (older version)) The System NEVER hangs, only applications crash!Some more experiences with AMD and X-related crashes:
-> I've an Athlon 800 on a Epox EP7KXA Mobo (686A) with 512MB RAM and no nVIDIA graphics card, but ATI XPERT 2000.I've got similar problems with 2.4.x-kernels and I would be very glad, if the cause could be found. The problem is more than half of a year old!
I posted it in this list some time ago (more than once) - nobody seemed to be interested. I posted it 2 times to the X bug list - no interest.But as I can see now, the problem seems to be greater than I thoght. Therefore I write here some of my latest experiences:
# X 4.1 (if I remember right) and 2.4.6 -> a lot off solid crashes (even pinging the machine didn't work) while starting X, no matter if DRI was turned on or off; no matter if agp was loaded or not. Unuseable.
# X-CVS and 2.4.6ac2 eg. is working fine - with DRI turned on - I didn't test it without DRI.
# Before, I tried to run X 4.1 and ac-Kernels. They have been crashing too as described above. That's why I'm using X CVS.
# If I try to run X CVS and vanilla 2.4.6, I'm getting blinking screens after some restarts of X or after long working with X. It's unuseable, too.
For me, it seems to be not a nVIDIA related problem.
The question for me is:
where are the differences between X CVS / X 4.1 and Vanilla / ac-patches
- and there combinations.
Why is the combination 2.4.6ac2 or the ac-patches before and X CVS (about 4 weeks old; not DRI-CVS; but they have been merged as far as I know) working for me without any problems?Did you try this combination too? It would bee interersting if it would work for you too!
Regards,
Andreas Hartmann
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