New PC-Speaker driver
Hello.
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I'm afraid I'll disappoint you guys but chances of getting this into mainline
Well, I not counting on that too much myself too, but only because the code is currently not ready.
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1.New motherboards have built-in sound,
Not all af them (my K7M doesn't) and there are a lot of old ones. Note that linux still supports 386.
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it may be crappy but definitely
better than PC speaker.
Of course but they require an external speakers while the speaker is always present:)
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Since they may
be wired differently, you can't be sure which way you
can force maximum amplitude
on a particular mobo (there are 2 or 3 ways to reach > max on different mobos.
Hmm, that sounds strange to me... Could you provide some details?
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3.It loads CPU enormously.
Hmm, but it shouldn't. It used to work on my 486DX4-120 without loading CPU too much (not more than 3% - 5%) and on my Athlon700 the load is not noticeable absolutely. Yes, it speeds up the timer ints from 100Hz to 18.5KHz, but the handler is very lightweight, what it does it mainly just restarts the timer. What is this CPU you have there that gets overloaded?
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In short: making it work right on wide variety of > hardware is next to impossible
And I think quite opposite: it works already on most hardware and with trivial workarounds like disabling APM idle calls, it can work on even more. What it really doesn't like is when interrupts are disabled for too long, but, as noted by Daniel Phillips, this is a bad condition for many other things as well.
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and even then results are mediocre (low volume, radio quality).
Yep, that's the tradeoff for getting 6-bit sound from a single-bit device:)
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Maybe ALSA team have some member
crazy enough to join you.
The main problem with ALSA, which can also be a final problem of getting that in, is that Jaroslav doesn't like the whole idea of a pc-speaker driver. But I have a hope that if the driver works well and the code is also good, he may reconsider:)
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It won't work well for everybody, then it won't live in mainline.
Hey, how many drivers are marked Absolete, Experemental or even Dangerous? This driver can be marked Experemental at the end.
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Because newcomers will enable it, be pissed off with crap > sound etc...
Guess what the most newcomers does with theCONFIG_EXPEREMENTAL option? :)
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Keeping it as a separate patch is completely sane thing > to do.
... at least for the near future, yes. But probably not forever
as there appears to be some demand, even more than I initially expected. After all I think that user's demand is rather strong argument for having any particular feature when the contrary arguments is only that it won't work in some rare cases (but won't break anything either).
Hi!
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Maybe ALSA team have some member
crazy enough to join you.The main problem with ALSA, which can also be a final problem of getting that in, is that Jaroslav doesn't like the whole idea of a pc-speaker driver. But I have a hope that if the driver works well and the code is also good, he may reconsider:)
What problems does Jaroslav have with the driver?
Pavel
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Hi,
Quoted 1 line · Pavel Machek
What problems does Jaroslav have with the driver?
I remember someone mentioned a PC-speaker driver would eat up too many interrupts, and would also not be maintained but rot in the corner...
Thunder
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