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Spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7 ????

DISCUSSION AnonimoVeneziano 12 participants 16 messages Jan 20, 2003 – Jan 24, 2003

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What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?
There is a way to solve this? (Next kernel versions) or is an HW problem? (Motherboard MSI KT7 Ultra)

Thanks

Bye

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Quoted 3 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?

It is most likely a hardware problem.

When a device signals an interrupt, it asserts its interrupt pin. When the CPU asks the interrupt controller what device generated the interrupt, the interrupt controller tells the CPU.

But if the interrupt line "goes away" before the CPU fetches the vector, then the interrupt controller doesn't "know" what IRQ caused the interrupt. So the interrupt controller sends an IRQ #7 to the CPU, along with setting a bit in the interrupt controller's status register that says in effect "this isn't really an IRQ 7, but I have no idea what it was. Sorry."

If you have ISA cards in your system, remove them from the system and re-insert them (with the power off, of course) - they may have developed some oxidization on the card edge connector. You can also try scrubbing the card edge with some plain paper (a US dollar bill works even better, but you might not have access to dead presidents in Italy.)

Ditto with PCI cards - remove them, polish the connector, then re-insert them.

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Have seen this problem with a motherboard with a bad PCI slot, too. happened with a pci network card in the slot...

Chad Schwartz
CornerNet System Administration

Quoted 34 lines · David D. Hagood
Quoted 3 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?

It is most likely a hardware problem.

When a device signals an interrupt, it asserts its interrupt pin. When the CPU asks the interrupt controller what device generated the interrupt, the interrupt controller tells the CPU.

But if the interrupt line "goes away" before the CPU fetches the vector, then the interrupt controller doesn't "know" what IRQ caused the interrupt. So the interrupt controller sends an IRQ #7 to the CPU, along with setting a bit in the interrupt controller's status register that says in effect "this isn't really an IRQ 7, but I have no idea what it was. Sorry."

If you have ISA cards in your system, remove them from the system and re-insert them (with the power off, of course) - they may have developed some oxidization on the card edge connector. You can also try scrubbing the card edge with some plain paper (a US dollar bill works even better, but you might not have access to dead presidents in Italy.)

Ditto with PCI cards - remove them, polish the connector, then re-insert them.

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Quoted 6 lines · David D. Hagood
Quoted 3 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?

It is most likely a hardware problem.

It can occur for lots of harmless software reasons too. If you disable the IRQ on a device just as the PIC sees it you may see this result for example.

Really for 7/15 on a PC we shouldnt be bugging people

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Quoted 2 lines · David D. Hagood

It is most likely a hardware problem.

I wouldn't necessarily assume a hardware problem (unless we also include chipset oddities). I get *exactly* one message stating exactly this per boot, and it always come a few seconds after loading the parport and parport_pc modules.

one example:

Jan 20 09:20:21 testing kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,EPP]
Jan 20 09:20:21 testing kernel: parport_pc: Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378
<snip>
Jan 20 09:20:07 testing kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.

-Tupshin

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Quoted 9 lines · Tupshin Harper <[email protected]>, on Mon Jan 20, 2003 [09:22:35 PM] said:
Quoted 2 lines · David D. Hagood

It is most likely a hardware problem.

I wouldn't necessarily assume a hardware problem (unless we also include chipset oddities). I get *exactly* one message stating exactly this per boot, and it always come a few seconds after loading the parport and parport_pc modules.

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one example:

Jan 20 09:20:21 testing kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,EPP]
Jan 20 09:20:21 testing kernel: parport_pc: Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378
<snip>
Jan 20 09:20:07 testing kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.

-Tupshin

	Hi;

	I see it just once every boot, and I dont have any parallel

port stuff enabled. (2.5.59)

Paul
[email protected]

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Quoted 9 lines · David D. Hagood
Quoted 3 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?

It is most likely a hardware problem.

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When a device signals an interrupt, it asserts its interrupt pin. When the CPU asks the interrupt controller what device generated the interrupt, the interrupt controller tells the CPU.

But if the interrupt line "goes away" before the CPU fetches the vector, then the interrupt controller doesn't "know" what IRQ caused the interrupt. So the interrupt controller sends an IRQ #7 to the CPU, along with setting a bit in the interrupt controller's status register that says in effect "this isn't really an IRQ 7, but I have no idea what it was. Sorry."

If you have ISA cards in your system, remove them from the system and re-insert them (with the power off, of course) - they may have developed some oxidization on the card edge connector. You can also try scrubbing the card edge with some plain paper (a US dollar bill works even better, but you might not have access to dead presidents in Italy.)

Ditto with PCI cards - remove them, polish the connector, then re-insert them.

Thank you very much all of you for the answers.So, this should be an harmless message, I've tried to attach something to the parallel port , or disable it in the bios, but doesn't work, the only way to remove this problem is to load the parport_pc module, this message with the module loaded doesn't appear. I've tried with other bioses , and the problem appears on all of them. If I compile in the kernel UP-IO-ACPI the problem disappears, but I have a lot of other problems, because my system is quite young and the support for IO-APIC is not added yet for me.If I use only UP-APIC this problem appears, and if don't use apic this disappears.

I'll try to remove some HW and retry. Someone had this problem without APIC enabled?

Thank you

Bye

Marcello

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Quoted 45 lines · AnonimoVeneziano
Quoted 27 lines · David D. Hagood
Quoted 3 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?

It is most likely a hardware problem.

When a device signals an interrupt, it asserts its interrupt pin. When the CPU asks the interrupt controller what device generated the interrupt, the interrupt controller tells the CPU.

But if the interrupt line "goes away" before the CPU fetches the vector, then the interrupt controller doesn't "know" what IRQ caused the interrupt. So the interrupt controller sends an IRQ #7 to the CPU, along with setting a bit in the interrupt controller's status register that says in effect "this isn't really an IRQ 7, but I have no idea what it was. Sorry."

If you have ISA cards in your system, remove them from the system and re-insert them (with the power off, of course) - they may have developed some oxidization on the card edge connector. You can also try scrubbing the card edge with some plain paper (a US dollar bill works even better, but you might not have access to dead presidents in Italy.)

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Ditto with PCI cards - remove them, polish the connector, then re-insert them.

Thank you very much all of you for the answers.So, this should be an harmless message, I've tried to attach something to the parallel port , or disable it in the bios, but doesn't work, the only way to remove this problem is to load the parport_pc module, this message with the module loaded doesn't appear. I've tried with other bioses , and the problem appears on all of them. If I compile in the kernel UP-IO-ACPI the problem disappears, but I have a lot of other problems, because my system is quite young and the support for IO-APIC is not added yet for me.If I use only UP-APIC this problem appears, and if don't use apic this disappears.

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I'll try to remove some HW and retry. Someone had this problem without APIC enabled?

Thank you

Bye

Marcello

If it bothers you, just comment out the message in the kernel. A "catch-all" for interrupt glitches is the IRQ7. It can be caused by real problems (unlikely if the rest of the machine works), or the occasional glitch where some hardware didn't assert its IRQ line long enough for it to be recognized. This is a hardware glitch and they happen. They started to happen more often once level interrupts, necessary for PCI interrupt sharing, started to become common. Level interrupts, as opposed to edge interrupts are not latched. If a glitch occurs on a edge interrupt, the event is latched. If enabled, the interrupt is handled just like a "real" one and nobody is the wiser. With level interrupts, the CPU can become "confused" with a glitch if, by the time the CPU starts to handle the interrupt, it no- longer exists. The result is that the CPU executes the IRQ7 handler, the "catch-all", which is also used for the printer.

Bottom line, it's normal. It's being handled. You probably should just comment out the message in "production" software so it doesn't bother anybody.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
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In reply to Tupshin Harper
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I wouldn't necessarily assume a hardware problem (unless we also include chipset oddities). I get *exactly* one message stating exactly this per boot, and it always come a few seconds after loading the parport and parport_pc modules.

Jan 20 09:20:07 testing kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.

I also see this message on every boot... I have two Soyo SY-KT400 Dragon Ultra mother boards, and the message appears with both of them. Perhaps it is some VIA oddity?. Anyhow, it does not seem to have any harmful effects (both boards are rock solid with 2.4.20).

Dec 23 20:34:37 mood kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
Dec 23 20:34:37 mood kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
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From: Ville Hallivuori <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:06:30 +0200

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Dec 23 20:34:37 mood kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.

Could we possible append an URL to Intels' spec to reduce the traffic here? Any volunteer to do that?

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In reply to Ville Hallivuori
Quoted 10 lines · Ville Hallivuori
Quoted 9 lines

I wouldn't necessarily assume a hardware problem (unless we also include chipset oddities). I get *exactly* one message stating exactly this per boot, and it always come a few seconds after loading the parport and parport_pc modules.

Jan 20 09:20:07 testing kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
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I also see this message on every boot... I have two Soyo SY-KT400 Dragon Ultra mother boards, and the message appears with both of them. Perhaps it is some VIA oddity?. Anyhow, it does not seem to have any harmful effects (both boards are rock solid with 2.4.20).

Dec 23 20:34:37 mood kernel: Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
Dec 23 20:34:37 mood kernel: spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.

When I enable I/O APIC the problem disappear , it is present only if I enable Local APIC. There is a possibility that that IRQ is an IRQ of I/O APIC , and when it is disabled it isn't initialized with Local APIC only . In this case the message can be ignored without any preoccupations

Bye

Marcello

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In reply to Tom Vier
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i get it on my thinkpad 560e when using a linksys ne2k pcmcia card. i only get the message once, and it's triggered after a few seconds of high throughput (fast, fd).

Same here with an Acer TravelMate laptop, with an smc pcmcia network card. The message occures only once at high network load. But the system is quite stable, so I didn't bother to track this down...

Oh, and the laptop is based on Ali, not on VIA chips.

Zsolt.

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A glitch on any interrupt line, will cause IRQ7 to trigger on the 8259A.
It is a documented 'feature' and is not really useful, but software
has to handle it gracefully.

Quoted 12 lines · Zsolt Babak
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i get it on my thinkpad 560e when using a linksys ne2k pcmcia card. i only get the message once, and it's triggered after a few seconds of high throughput (fast, fd).

Same here with an Acer TravelMate laptop, with an smc pcmcia network card. The message occures only once at high network load. But the system is quite stable, so I didn't bother to track this down...

Oh, and the laptop is based on Ali, not on VIA chips.

Zsolt.

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In reply to AnonimoVeneziano

I've noticed also that the number indicated by the ERR field in /proc/interrupts increase slowly with the time.
But, at the end of all I haven't understood well what is this error, and what the ERR field indicates. And why with IO-APIC it disappears? (IO-APIC gives me very much problems with ACPI :-( )

Bye

Quoted 15 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?
There is a way to solve this? (Next kernel versions) or is an HW problem? (Motherboard MSI KT7 Ultra)

Thanks

Bye

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It is a hardware 'feature', but nothing to worry about. The software just has to live with it. This problem is as old as the PC itself, dating back to the original IBM design from 1981.

Cheers,

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Quoted 31 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

I've noticed also that the number indicated by the ERR field in /proc/interrupts increase slowly with the time.
But, at the end of all I haven't understood well what is this error, and what the ERR field indicates. And why with IO-APIC it disappears? (IO-APIC gives me very much problems with ACPI :-( )

Bye

Quoted 7 lines · AnonimoVeneziano

What does it mean this message?

Of what problem is the signal?
There is a way to solve this? (Next kernel versions) or is an HW problem? (Motherboard MSI KT7 Ultra)

Thanks

Quoted 8 lines

Bye

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