SCO's "proof"

compliments of "d1rkinator" from yahoo finance message board:

The code SCO finds offending:

www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh0.jpg www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/imh1.jpg

Its location in Linux:

/usr/src/linux-2.4.20/arch/ia64/sn/io/ate_utils.c

And its heritage:

minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html

Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.

Ah I was wondering if anyone had a copy of that.

Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?

Dave
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AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...

Frank

For those of you who don't speek greek, the greek text is English and reads:

"As part of the kernel evolution towords modular naming, the functions malloc and free are being renamed to rmalloc and rfree. Compatibility will be maintained by the following assembler code:
(also see free/malloc below)"

What a way of obfuscating their IP. :)

Bart

Oh! That's wonderful! They own an Alogrithm called "first-fit". Really!!! Maybe it's the comments thay they claim ownership of. Certainly the code, supplied by SCI (their (c)), can't be the offender.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.

http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Caldera-license.pdf

<quote>
January 23, 2002
Dear UNIX? enthusiasts,
Caldera International, Inc. hereby grants a fee free license that includes the rights use, modify and distribute this named source code, including creating derived binary products created from the source code. The source code for which Caldera International, Inc. grants rights are limited to the following UNIX Operating Systems that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System, with specific exclusion of UNIX System III and UNIX System V and successor operating systems:
32-bit 32V UNIX
16 bit UNIX Versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
</quote>

-Tupshin

Frank> AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...

But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?

Colin Paul Adams
Preston Lancashire

confuse.S follows.
----------------
#
# Enormously complicated assembly-language program released # under GPL, herein referenced ;)
#
# This program will actually work. Am I violating somebody's # patent? Sue me.
#
.section .text
rmalloc: jmp malloc
rfree: jmp free
print: jmp printf # Fix typical typos
.global rmalloc
.type rmalloc,@function
.global rfree
.type rfree,@function
.global print
.type print,@function
.end
---------------

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.

Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?

Sigh.

Here's the original Heise article, for those who read German:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/

Jeff

Jeff> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:37:13AM -0400, Brandon Stewart

Jeff> Why the heck is ia64 inventing its own mutex spinlocks?

Jeff> Sigh.

Jeff> Here's the original Heise article, for those who read German:
Jeff> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/jk-19.08.03-000/

It's not ia64, it's the SGI platform-specific code...

	--david

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:30:56AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
...

And a tiny-url redirected google-translated english version:
http://tinyurl.com/ki2a

(amazingly readable version that translation..)

/Matti Aarnio

They can't even copy code to a slide:

	if (size==0)
		return)((ulong_t NULL);

That does not compile...

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Nothing new. See this LKML post by Neil Moore and the following thread, named "Unix code in Linux" from Jun 19:

http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0306.2/1064.html

That code isn't present in 2.5 anymore.

Vojtech Pavlik
SuSE Labs, SuSE CR

Well it certainly looks as though they copied Linux. At least they copied the comments okay. It also looks as though the evidence was additionally tampered with because, what is alleged to be appropriated code will not even compile because of the tampering.

In the United States Courts, one cannot simply hand-copy some so-called evidence. This so-called evidence will never make it to court. If this is being used as evidence, this is prima- facie evidence of fraud.

Don't do the editing for them. Just let them make their phony evidence. If this continues, somebody will lose their license to practice law, and sombody may even end up in jail.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.20 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.

Quoth Colin Paul Adams:

We can only hope.

Kurt

Fourth Law of Revision:
	It is usually impractical to worry beforehand about
interferences -- if you have none, someone will make one for you.

The first image seems usless
Comments are not acceptable in this type of case, that was ruled in court before over AT&T vs Berkely.
So.. it's completely irrelevant in the real world. As for the 2nd they'd still have to go a long way twoards proving they didn't steal it.

In article <[email protected]>, Colin Paul Adams <[email protected]> wrote:

| >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Gevaerts <[email protected]> writes:
| 
|     >> > minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/sys/sys/malloc.c.html
|     >> > 
|     >> > Ok, SCO: This was easy. Now, show us the other many examples.
|     >> 
|     >> Is it? What the hell was the copyright on that code?
| 
|     Frank> AFAIK it was released under a BSD license by Caldera...
| 
| But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?

Thay should! Oh wait, you said sue, not shoot... nevermind.

bill davidsen <[email protected]>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

Only in the foot.. only in the foot.. unfortunately.

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| On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:27:31 -0000, [email protected] (bill davidsen) said:

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|>Colin Paul Adams  <[email protected]> wrote:
|>| But Caldera are SCO now, aren't they? Are they going to sue themselves!?
|>
|>Thay should! Oh wait, you said sue, not shoot... nevermind.
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|
| Only in the foot.. only in the foot.. unfortunately.

This case is getting more rediculous with each day...lfmao

Oh dear, it seems that our /comments/ are alike. Hrmm. Pity the compiller doesn't take any notice of them, and therefore, I don't see the evidence that the /code/ has been stolen. Also, as others have quite rightfully pointed out, it doesn't even compile -- syntax errors galore.

Lets hope some people in the legal profession have some C knowledge -- or at least have the sense to go directly to the kernel source on kernel.org rather than relying on what SCO provides.

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As the only case that SCO has filed up to now is against IBM (as far as I know) you should be aware of the possibility that this proof presented is only a piece of FUD to distract from the real issues. IBM has never touched this source, so it is irrelevant to the case.

Regards,
Stephan

What is the language on "System V" code ? ;-)

lawyer-ish :-)

Paul

English using a Greek font.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

Geert (\Gamma\epsilon\epsilon\rho\tau)

--
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AFAIK, C source code doesn't contain any font information, not even in comments.

Måns Rullgård
[email protected]

Good morning, the font was applied in the PowerPoint slides...

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