GNU/Linux userland?
Hello!
I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).
I do not refer to a step-by-step instruction like "Linux From Scratch" (which I do find commendable, but is not quite the same), but an automated, cross-compilation aware foundation for a Linux system.
I found one of the great things about NetBSD which I miss in Linux that I can generate a baseline from source that quickly. It would mix greatly with the package management systems for Linux, like apt or rpm, which could be used for all other stuff, like X11.
I'd say such a system should include (not complete, just in my opinion):
* Kernel 2.6.x
* Sample generic kernel configurations (like GENERIC etc. in NetBSD)
* GNU Toolchain (gcc, gdb, glibc, ...)
* GNU make
* udev-Support oder eine /dev-Generierungsskript
* Bash
* basic networking tools
* an interpreter for the language the build script is in (Sh, Python, ...)
* Security (PAM support, Shadow passwords)
* System V init
It should contain anything you need to build a baseline from within the baseline. It should be a minimal setup.
It should include cross-compilation support.
It would be imaginable to have similar scripts to create embedded development host setup (toolchains and libs) and an embedded development target baseline (uclibc, other libraries, busybox).
Is there something that at least partly is in that direction? Is there a need for something like this?
I'm asking out of genuine curiosity, and hoping for answers.
Please CC me, I'm in none of these lists!
Thanks and with kind regard,
Oliver Korpilla
Quoted 11 lines · Oliver Korpilla
Hello!
I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (
build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).I do not refer to a step-by-step instruction like "Linux From Scratch" (which I do find commendable, but is not quite the same), but an automated, cross-compilation aware foundation for a Linux system.
Heretix does everything except cross-compile. It's a complete rewrite of rubyx
(http://www.rubyx.org) but doesn't have its own website yet. Discussion is happening on the rubyx ML. Cross compilation support would be a simple extension to Heretix, if you fancy a project :)
Andrew Walrond
Dear diary, on Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 09:40:31PM CEST, I got a letter where Oliver Korpilla <[email protected]> told me that...
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I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (
build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).
Gentoo? :-) Bootstrap in particular, and emerge --emptytree system then.
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Quoted 4 lines · Oliver Korpilla
I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (
build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).
Try uclibc buildroot, see http://www.uclibc.org/toolchains.html .
Erik
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Quoted 13 lines · Oliver Korpilla
Hello!
I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (
build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).I do not refer to a step-by-step instruction like "Linux From Scratch" (which I do find commendable, but is not quite the same), but an automated, cross-compilation aware foundation for a Linux system.
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Heretix does everything except cross-compile. It's a complete rewrite of rubyx (http://www.rubyx.org) but doesn't have its own website yet. Discussion is happening on the rubyx ML. Cross compilation support would be a simple extension to Heretix, if you fancy a project :)
Andrew Walrond
Thanks, Andrew, that sounds great! Why was it necessary to rewrite rubyx??
With kind regards,
Oliver
Quoted 4 lines · Oliver Korpilla
Hello!
I wondered if there is a project or setup that does allow me to build a GNU/Linux userland including kernel, build environment, basic tools with a single script just as you can in NetBSD (
build.sh) or FreeBSD (make world).
You might also look at www.openembedded.org It has support for cross compiling, and with one command can build an entire userland. Not sure if it is exactly a fit for what you want to do, but it seems very close.
John
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On 04/13/05 14:40:31, Oliver Korpilla wrote:
You might also look at www.openembedded.org It has support for cross compiling, and with one command can build an entire userland. Not sure if it is exactly a fit for what you want to do, but it seems very close.
Thanks, this sounds great, and together with the directions I got about Gentoo and Heretix/Rubyx seems to precisely match my request.
Thanks to you, and thanks to all helpful replies! :)
With kind regards,
Oliver Korpilla
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You might also look at www.openembedded.org It has support for cross compiling, and with one command can build an entire userland. Not sure if it is exactly a fit for what you want to do, but it seems very close.
Thanks, this sounds great, and together with the directions I got about Gentoo and Heretix/Rubyx seems to precisely match my request.
The T2 System Developmen Environment (http://www.t2-project.org/) might also be interesting for you.
Greetings,
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