Newbie questions
Some questions from a dosemu newbie that I could not find in documentation. Using dosemu version 1.2.2.2.0 under Slackware 10.1.
0. Where can I find more documentation?
1. How do I print? My system uses CUPS.
In particular I wish to print reports using the Supercalc version 4
spreadsheet program and a Deskjet 500 through the CUPS system.
Supercalc is working just fine except for printing. Does anyone have any experience with this program and dosemu?
2. Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
3. Where can I find guidance on the allow commands in config.sys and autoexec.bat?
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Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX Using Thunderbird on Slackware Linux
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Some questions from a dosemu newbie that I could not find in documentation. Using dosemu version 1.2.2.2.0 under Slackware 10.1.
0. Where can I find more documentation?
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1. How do I print? My system uses CUPS.
In particular I wish to print reports using the Supercalc version 4
spreadsheet program and a Deskjet 500 through the CUPS system. Supercalc is working just fine except for printing. Does anyone have any experience with this program and dosemu?2. Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
3. Where can I find guidance on the allow commands in config.sys and autoexec.bat?
I think there is the best documentation available on the dosemu site: http://dosemu.org Also, i'd strongly recomment to upgrade your dosemu to the latest version. You should see the settings to print from the dosemu.conf.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
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Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.htmlThanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
In terms of stuff in your autoexec.bat, I even load TSRs there. However, I find that I must use dosemu 1.2.1 instead of either 1.2.2 or 1.3.2. Otherwise printing doesn't work well. If remove those TSRs, then I can print fine under 1.2.2 and 1.3.2, but I need those TSRs for my DOS app that runs my business.
You can find all you need to get printing to work in the dosemu.conf file.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.htmlThanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
John I presently use
4DOS 7.50 (Win98) DOS 7.10
However I'd like to use IBM dos which perhaps can be purchased to get away from any software liability from using Windows 98 dos.
Any idea which IBM dos version I need and where I could get it? Otherwise I'll use freedos.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
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John I presently use
4DOS 7.50 (Win98) DOS 7.10However I'd like to use IBM dos which perhaps can be purchased to get away from any software liability from using Windows 98 dos.
Any idea which IBM dos version I need and where I could get it? Otherwise I'll use freedos.
I don't know the differences, although I assume that freedos is the only one that is actually in development. what we need is a comparison chart listing the different dos brands/versions and the features. then let users send in
the features they know of. That would be a neat site.
In the big scheme of things, I am not worried about microsoft giving me grief
re: using their dos under linux. I have a original cd and receipt for every copy that I use. I know of someone who was selling used computers and putting winxx and office on them. microsoft went after him, and now he puts freedos on them, but that was over the top.
IBM has a site that has a link for pcdos, and they were still selling it about 6 months ago when I saw the site.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
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John I presently use
4DOS 7.50 (Win98) DOS 7.10However I'd like to use IBM dos which perhaps can be purchased to get away from any software liability from using Windows 98 dos.
Any idea which IBM dos version I need and where I could get it? Otherwise I'll use freedos.
I don't know the differences, although I assume that freedos is the only one that is actually in development. what we need is a comparison chart listing the different dos brands/versions and the features. then let users send in
the features they know of. That would be a neat site.
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In the big scheme of things, I am not worried about microsoft giving me grief
re: using their dos under linux. I have a original cd and receipt for every copy that I use. I know of someone who was selling used computers and putting winxx and office on them. microsoft went after him, and now he puts freedos on them, but that was over the top.IBM has a site that has a link for pcdos, and they were still selling it about 6 months ago when I saw the site.
PC-DOS 2000 (PS-DOS 8.0) is available from their site for about $80 last time I checked. You can still use DR-DOS 7.03, this site has it: telnet://solarflow.dyndns.org
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
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John I presently use
4DOS 7.50 (Win98) DOS 7.10However I'd like to use IBM dos which perhaps can be purchased to get away from any software liability from using Windows 98 dos.
Any idea which IBM dos version I need and where I could get it? Otherwise I'll use freedos.
I imagine IBM-DOS will work, but I haven't tried it. If freedos allowed me to run the DOS apps I use on a daily basis, I'd use that instead of MS-DOS 6.22, but it doesn't.
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Can I use 4dos as a replacement for command.com?
Yes. I use MS-DOS 6.22 with 4DOS replacing command.com.
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Thanks Ralph. That answers the 4dos question quite satisfactorily.
Larry
I use 4dos 7.5, the latest version and ms-dos 7.10, which, if I remember correctly is the dos from win98. I do this so I can access my 32 bit partitions from dos.
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John I presently use
4DOS 7.50 (Win98) DOS 7.10However I'd like to use IBM dos which perhaps can be purchased to get away from any software liability from using Windows 98 dos.
Any idea which IBM dos version I need and where I could get it? Otherwise I'll use freedos.
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I imagine IBM-DOS will work, but I haven't tried it. If freedos allowed me to run the DOS apps I use on a daily basis, I'd use that instead of MS-DOS 6.22, but it doesn't.
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Ralph what DOS apps do not run in IBM-DOS?
Do you know what's lacking in IBM-DOS so they can't run? Larry
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I imagine IBM-DOS will work, but I haven't tried it. If freedos allowed me to run the DOS apps I use on a daily basis, I'd use that instead of MS-DOS 6.22, but it doesn't.
Ralph what DOS apps do not run in IBM-DOS?
Do you know what's lacking in IBM-DOS so they can't run? Larry
I've never tried IBM-DOS. In terms of freedos, I can't get WordPerfect Shell 3.1 to work with two TSRs I use: ZipKey and DPPrint. The former allows me to insert City, State, Zip into a database by just typing in the Zip. The latter allows me to certain printing things with DataPerfect relational database applications. These work fine with MS-DOS 6.22 under dosemu, better under dosemu 1.2.1 than either 1.2.2 or 1.3.2.
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To run my business, I use Slackware 10.2, and run the following DOS programs simultaneously in a dosemu 1.2.1 MS-DOS 6.22 box:
That dosemu is too old and really bad. I coudn't use anything on it.
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WordPerfect Shell 3.1 (TSR)
ZipKey (TSR)
DPMouse (TSR)
DPPrint (TSR)
What are these?
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DataPerfect (fully relational database manager)
Is this a normal "well behaviored" program?
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They run perfectly in a dosemu 1.2.1 MS-DOS 6.22 box. However, in a dosemu 1.2.2 MS-DOS 6.22 box, printing doesn't work properly. It also fails to work properly in a dosemu 1.3.2 MS-DOS 6.22 box.
Only wit CVS-dosemu that ZI couls run all that I wanted
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In a dosemu 1.2.1 freedos box, I can't get all 5 programs to run together.
?? You could explain better
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Never tried later versions of freedos after that. I'll take a look at the latest official release of freedos later.
See my latest message: try "said" unstable.
Alain
PS: this is list stuf, send it to the list, I wiil get it too...
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To run my business, I use Slackware 10.2, and run the following DOS programs simultaneously in a dosemu 1.2.1 MS-DOS 6.22 box:
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That dosemu is too old and really bad. I coudn't use anything on it.
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WordPerfect Shell 3.1 (TSR)
ZipKey (TSR)
DPMouse (TSR)
DPPrint (TSR)What are these?
WP Shell 3.1 is a menu/shell program, from which other programs are launched. It stays in residence when the other programs are open.
ZipKey is a TSR that allows the user to, say, enter a Zip Code in a City field, and then hit F11 (this is how I have it configured) to get ZipKey to fill in the correct city in the City field, the correct state in the State field, and copy the entered zip code in the Zip Code field.
DPMouse is a TSR that allows the use of a mouse in a DataPerfect application. Otherwise, native DataPerfect applications don't recognize the mouse. It also adds other capabilities to a DataPerfect application.
DPPrint is a TSR that adds certain print functions to a DataPerfect application, including a print spooler. This print spooler doesn't work well with dosemu 1.2.2 and dosemu 1.3.2, but works fine with dosemu 1.2.1.
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DataPerfect (fully relational database manager)
Is this a normal "well behaviored" program?
Yes. And without the other TSRs I mentioned running at the same time, DataPerfect applications run fine under freedos.
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Never tried later versions of freedos after that. I'll take a look at the latest official release of freedos later.
See my latest message: try "said" unstable.
Yeah, I know you mentioned "unstable", but the applications I'm talking about are manipulating mission critical data for my business. Not sure if the unstable freedos versions out there are okay or not.
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PS: this is list stuf, send it to the list, I wiil get it too...
When I got your message about this, I got it in private email and didn't see it in the list, so thought you must have decided to do this privately for some reason. Now I see the list got your message some time later. I must have responded shortly after you posted it.
Ralph