vista install oddities
This is a weird one. Using kvm27. I am able to install and run winxp 32 bit perfectly. The problem arises when I try and run my Vista Ultimate upgrade. You cannot cold boot the upgrade and install on a blank drive because when you enter the activation code, the software checks to make sure there is a valid version of windows already installed.
Let me outline the way it works:
Base metal:
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that there is no windows installed and that the key entered is for upgrade only.
* Windows installed installer will upgrade.
kvm/quem
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that it cannot verify the entered key. Note that its not saying that its a bad key.
* Windows installed installer grips that it cannot verify the entered key.
I'm at a loss on how to debug this one. It obviously has something to do with kvm/quem since the process works when running native.
Oh also something else to note.. the upgrader refuses to even get to the key activation screen if the ACPI in XP has been disabled... (Ie the ACPI workaround). It says it needs an ACPI capable machine to install. Switching the driver back to ACPI fixes this.
I am able to attach screenshots or help debug this if given some idea how :)
Wayde
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Quoted 13 lines · Wayde Milas
This is a weird one. Using kvm27. I am able to install and run winxp 32 bit perfectly. The problem arises when I try and run my Vista Ultimate upgrade. You cannot cold boot the upgrade and install on a blank drive because when you enter the activation code, the software checks to make sure there is a valid version of windows already installed.
Let me outline the way it works:
Base metal:
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that there is no windows installed and that the key entered is for upgrade only.
* Windows installed installer will upgrade.
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kvm/quem
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that it cannot verify the entered key. Note that its not saying that its a bad key.
* Windows installed installer grips that it cannot verify the entered key.I'm at a loss on how to debug this one. It obviously has something to do with kvm/quem since the process works when running native.
This is probably some kind of copy protection device, it's making sure you're upgrading to the same machine and not to a different one. So most likely this is by design.
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Oh also something else to note.. the upgrader refuses to even get to the key activation screen if the ACPI in XP has been disabled... (Ie the ACPI workaround). It says it needs an ACPI capable machine to install. Switching the driver back to ACPI fixes this.
The acpi workaround is only for Windows XP and Windows 2000. Windows Vista won't work without acpi (but on the other hand, seems to suffer much less from it).
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This is a weird one. Using kvm27. I am able to install and run winxp 32 bit perfectly. The problem arises when I try and run my Vista Ultimate upgrade. You cannot cold boot the upgrade and install on a blank drive because when you enter the activation code, the software checks to make sure there is a valid version of windows already installed.
Let me outline the way it works:
Base metal:
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that there is no windows installed and that the key entered is for upgrade only.
* Windows installed installer will upgrade.kvm/quem
* Empty drive, vista installer will gripe that it cannot verify the entered key. Note that its not saying that its a bad key.
* Windows installed installer grips that it cannot verify the entered key.
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I'm at a loss on how to debug this one. It obviously has something to do with kvm/quem since the process works when running native.
This is probably some kind of copy protection device, it's making sure you're upgrading to the same machine and not to a different one. So most likely this is by design.
Maybe... but define "different one". The ultimate upgrade comes with its own unique key and the only restriction that applies is that it must be installed upon a working windows install.
Something else I just tried. When not in kvm on an install I can hit next and NOT put a key. I get a popup warning me that I'll have to put in a key withing 30 days or the os will cease to function and I hit ok to proceed.
Inside kvm if I do the same thing I get the same popup, hit proceed, and I'm taken right back to the key activation screen and am not able to proceed.
Is it possible vista detects that its running virtulized and prevents any install because of it?
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This is probably some kind of copy protection device, it's making sure you're upgrading to the same machine and not to a different one. So most likely this is by design.
Maybe... but define "different one". The ultimate upgrade comes with its own unique key and the only restriction that applies is that it must be installed upon a working windows install.
I don't know anything about this really.
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Something else I just tried. When not in kvm on an install I can hit next and NOT put a key. I get a popup warning me that I'll have to put in a key withing 30 days or the os will cease to function and I hit ok to proceed.
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Inside kvm if I do the same thing I get the same popup, hit proceed, and I'm taken right back to the key activation screen and am not able to proceed.
Is it possible vista detects that its running virtulized and prevents any install because of it?
Maybe. Non-upgrade installs do work.
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