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stop/start iptables vs. "iptables-restore"

DISCUSSION Alex Tang 3 participants 3 messages Aug 24, 2007 – Aug 26, 2007

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Hi folks,

We run a linux based product (RHEL4 based, kernel-2.6.9-55, and iptables-1.2.11). During the running of the product, when we make changes to the iptables configuration, we use the SysV-like RHEL script "/etc/init.d/iptables restart", which effectively stops iptables, unloads all of the iptables based kernel modules, then starts iptables and all the kernel stuff.

A colleague recently asked why we're not using "iptables-restore" instead of the script which does "stop/start". I'm looking to see if you know of any reasons why we should or should not use iptables-restore vs. "stop/start". Does it matter if the number of connections on the system is high? Our product can sometimes handle many millions of connections per day.

Thanks.

...alex...

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Hi folks,

We run a linux based product (RHEL4 based, kernel-2.6.9-55, and iptables-1.2.11). During the running of the product, when we make changes to the iptables configuration, we use the SysV-like RHEL script "/etc/init.d/iptables restart", which effectively stops iptables, unloads all of the iptables based kernel modules, then starts iptables and all the kernel stuff.

A colleague recently asked why we're not using "iptables-restore" instead of the script which does "stop/start". I'm looking to see if you know of any reasons why we should or should not use iptables-restore vs. "stop/start". Does it matter if the number of connections on the system is high? Our product can sometimes handle many millions of connections per day.

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Thanks.

...alex...

There is a dramatic difference in the time it takes to load the rules and rule changes. In the ISCS network security management project
(http://iscs.sourceforge.net), we frequently generate rule sets in the tens of thousands of rules and rule change sets in the thousands of rules to implement micro-partitioned, highly granular security. We found using just iptables was a showstopper.

Thus, ISCS not only loads its boot rule set using iptables-restore but even makes dynamic changes by writing an iptables-restore rule file and loading it via iptables-restore -n.

Hope that helps - John

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Quoted 4 lines · Alex Tang

Hi folks,

We run a linux based product (RHEL4 based, kernel-2.6.9-55, and iptables-1.2.11). During the running of the product, when we make changes to the iptables configuration, we use the SysV-like RHEL script "/etc/init.d/iptables restart", which effectively stops iptables, unloads all of the iptables based kernel modules, then starts iptables and all the kernel stuff. A colleague recently asked why we're not using "iptables-restore" instead of the script which does "stop/start". I'm looking to see if you know of any reasons why we should or should not use iptables-restore vs. "stop/start". Does it matter if the number of connections on the system is high? Our product can sometimes handle many millions of connections per day.

The RHEL start/stop scripts do use iptables-save and -restore. They are as efficient as they can be.

HTH,
M4