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Hi.
saa7162
Maybe thats really stupid question, but I greped and googled very intensive and I am not sure.
What is recent status of saa7162 driver?
Am I wrong - work is frozen due to missing specs?
So should I assume - that schmeltz will not work under linux for long time more?

Aver DVB-T Hybrid+FM PCI A16D.
I found (on wiki page), that this card is poor supported. But I did not found 777 A16A-C at all.
I have A16A-C and it works excellent.
What is recent status for Hybrid+FM PCI A16D?

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2008/8/28 <[email protected]>:

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Hi.
saa7162
Maybe thats really stupid question, but I greped and googled very intensive and I am not sure.
What is recent status of saa7162 driver?
Am I wrong - work is frozen due to missing specs?
So should I assume - that schmeltz will not work under linux for long time more?

Aver DVB-T Hybrid+FM PCI A16D.
I found (on wiki page), that this card is poor supported. But I did not found 777 A16A-C at all.
I have A16A-C and it works excellent.
What is recent status for Hybrid+FM PCI A16D?

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Wieslaw Kirbedz

Hey,
The wiki page for the AVerMedia DVB-T Hybrid+FM PCI (A16D) shows that
the card is actually well supported using the linuxtv repository. I wrote/updated much of the A16D wiki section as I own one of these.
Both digital and analogue work well (except for analogue audio under
Ubuntu - saa7134-alsa issues)
I haven't yet tried to use the remote but there was a post earlier by
someone who is working on getting it mapped.

If you have a new type of card that is working could you please
create a page for it in the wiki, add as much info as you can and add it to the table here[1].

cheers,
Owen.

[0] http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_Hybrid%2BFM_PCI
[1] http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards

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2008/8/29 Wieslaw Kierbedz <[email protected]>:

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Owen Townend nagli:

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2008/8/28 <[email protected]>:

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Hi.
saa7162
Maybe thats really stupid question, but I greped and googled very intensive and I am not sure.
What is recent status of saa7162 driver?
Am I wrong - work is frozen due to missing specs?
So should I assume - that schmeltz will not work under linux for long time more?

Aver DVB-T Hybrid+FM PCI A16D.
I found (on wiki page), that this card is poor supported. But I did not found 777 A16A-C at all.
I have A16A-C and it works excellent.
What is recent status for Hybrid+FM PCI A16D?

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Regards
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Wieslaw Kirbedz

Hey,
The wiki page for the AVerMedia DVB-T Hybrid+FM PCI (A16D) shows that
the card is actually well supported using the linuxtv repository. I wrote/updated much of the A16D wiki section as I own one of these.
Both digital and analogue work well (except for analogue audio under
Ubuntu - saa7134-alsa issues)
I haven't yet tried to use the remote but there was a post earlier by
someone who is working on getting it mapped.

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If you have a new type of card that is working could you please
create a page for it in the wiki, add as much info as you can and add it to the table here[1].

cheers,
Owen.

I have got Aver DVB-T 777 A16A-C which is not present in
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCI_Cards#AVerMedia table. I am not sure. Maybe it would be enough to add its designation to A16AR? It is autodetected as card=85, simply Aver 777.
Works perfectly.
If you think it should have separate record I can do that.

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P.S. Does anybody knows something about my first question?

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Hey,
If it's detecting and working as the 777 A16AR then it would make
sense to add it to the existing page, similar to the A16AR/A16D Hybrid+FM Page.
As to the first question, the 7162 development seemed to be still
progressing as of last month:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.dvb/43048

cheers,
Owen.

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Hey,
If it's detecting and working as the 777 A16AR then it would make
sense to add it to the existing page, similar to the A16AR/A16D Hybrid+FM Page.
As to the first question, the 7162 development seemed to be still
progressing as of last month:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.dvb/43048

Hey, hey.

Here are few pictures (slow link):
ftp://farba.eu.org//download/AVER777A16A-C.zip

lspci -vv:
01:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device 2c05
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium

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TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 7
Region 0: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: saa7134
Kernel modules: saa7134

And dmesg output:

Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.14 loaded
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: found at 0000:01:0a.0, rev:
209, irq: 7, latency: 32, mmio: 0xe4000000
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: subsystem: 1461:2c05, board:
AverTV DVB-T 777 [card=85,autodetected]
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: board init: gpio is 2e400
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: input: saa7134 IR (AverTV DVB-T 777) as

/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.0/0000:01:0a.0/input/input7

Bag your pardon for writing to priv address.

Cheers, cheers.

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2008/8/30 <[email protected]>:

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Hey,
If it's detecting and working as the 777 A16AR then it would make
sense to add it to the existing page, similar to the A16AR/A16D Hybrid+FM Page.
As to the first question, the 7162 development seemed to be still
progressing as of last month:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.dvb/43048

Hey, hey.

Here are few pictures (slow link):
ftp://farba.eu.org//download/AVER777A16A-C.zip

lspci -vv:
01:0a.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev d1)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device 2c05
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium

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TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 7
Region 0: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: saa7134
Kernel modules: saa7134

And dmesg output:

Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.14 loaded
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: found at 0000:01:0a.0, rev:
209, irq: 7, latency: 32, mmio: 0xe4000000
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: subsystem: 1461:2c05, board:
AverTV DVB-T 777 [card=85,autodetected]
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: saa7133[0]: board init: gpio is 2e400
Aug 29 18:24:23 mincho kernel: input: saa7134 IR (AverTV DVB-T 777) as
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/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.0/0000:01:0a.0/input/input7

Bag your pardon for writing to priv address.

Cheers, cheers.
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No worries, I'll add the info to the wiki.
Can you send through what distro you're using as well as the output of uname -a. Also can you send lspci -vvnn instead of just -vv -- It adds the numeric identifiers.

I'll create a separate page rather than add it on as the current page name/link is specific to the A16AR.
(which it's not for the Hybrid+FM)

cheers,
Owen.

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No worries, I'll add the info to the wiki.
Can you send through what distro you're using as well as the output of uname -a. Also can you send lspci -vvnn instead of just -vv --

Distro is Fedora 9 32bit.

lspci -vvnn:
01:0a.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder [1131:7133] (rev d1)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device [1461:2c05]
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium

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TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 7
Region 0: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: saa7134
Kernel modules: saa7134

uname -a:
Linux mincho 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 4 14:08:11 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

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I'll create a separate page rather than add it on as the current page name/link is specific to the A16AR.
(which it's not for the Hybrid+FM)

Thats not Hybrid. Thats DVB-T 777 A16A-C.
I asked about Hybrid A16D, because my card - that 777 is not described anywhere but works.
Therefore I was not sure if Hybrid A16D description is up-to-date as 777 A16A-C does not exist at all.

Cheers
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2008/8/30 <[email protected]>:

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No worries, I'll add the info to the wiki.
Can you send through what distro you're using as well as the output of uname -a. Also can you send lspci -vvnn instead of just -vv --

Distro is Fedora 9 32bit.

lspci -vvnn:
01:0a.0 Multimedia controller [0480]: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder [1131:7133] (rev d1)
Subsystem: Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device [1461:2c05]
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium

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TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-

Latency: 32
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 7
Region 0: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: saa7134
Kernel modules: saa7134

uname -a:
Linux mincho 2.6.25.14-108.fc9.i686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 4 14:08:11 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

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I'll create a separate page rather than add it on as the current page name/link is specific to the A16AR.
(which it's not for the Hybrid+FM)

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Thats not Hybrid. Thats DVB-T 777 A16A-C.
I asked about Hybrid A16D, because my card - that 777 is not described anywhere but works.
Therefore I was not sure if Hybrid A16D description is up-to-date as 777 A16A-C does not exist at all.

Cheers
Wieslaw

My apologies, I was just drawing a comparison to the hybrid. Thanks for the information, I've created a page for the 777 A16A-C:
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_AVerTV_DVB-T_777_(A16A-C)

If there's anything missing feel free to add it, or let me know and I can. Next I, or someone, will have to add a patch to have it detected and labeled correctly instead of 'Avermedia Technologies Inc Unknown device'. As the card itself is working this shouldn't be too hard.

cheers,
Owen.

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[linux-dvb] [OT] Re: Aver saa7135 cards.

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If there's anything missing feel free to add it, or let me know and I can.

By the way.
I thought about MPEG4/H.264 section on wiki pages. In Poland DVB-T+ is most used standard.
But at this moment due to PFAF interlacing I had to use commercial codec. I can write a little howto, but it would be some free advertising for core avc.
Do you think it has some sens?

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Re: [linux-dvb] [OT] Re: Aver saa7135 cards.

2008/9/1 Wieslaw Kierbedz <[email protected]>:

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By the way.
I thought about MPEG4/H.264 section on wiki pages. In Poland DVB-T+ is most used standard.

AFAIN there is no _official_ directive or standard for DVB in Poland. There is a only a recommendation form UKE [1]. In short, minimal requirements are DVB-T (v1), MPEG-4 AVC (aka H.264) and DolbyDigital+ (EAC3).

Second recommendation is from GIGEiT [2]. It contains more detailed parameters for both "SD" and "HD".

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But at this moment due to PFAF interlacing I had to use commercial codec. I can write a little howto, but it would be some free advertising for core avc.
Do you think it has some sens?

Sure, every how-to is welcome.

[1] http://www.urtip.gov.pl/uke/index.jsp?place=Lead01&news_cat_id=168&news_id=3057&layout=3&page=text
[2] http://www.kigeit.org.pl/stirc/pliki/20080403_parametry_techniczne_DTT.htm

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Re: [linux-dvb] [OT] Re: Aver saa7135 cards.

Krzysztof Burghardt nagli:

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2008/9/1 Wieslaw Kierbedz <[email protected]>:

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By the way.
I thought about MPEG4/H.264 section on wiki pages. In Poland DVB-T+ is most used standard.

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AFAIN there is no _official_ directive or standard for DVB in Poland. There is a only a recommendation form UKE [1]. In short, minimal requirements are DVB-T (v1), MPEG-4 AVC (aka H.264) and DolbyDigital+ (EAC3).

There is a decision.
Due to number of possible programs and frequencies limit polish DBT stations will work with H.264.
Most of test transmiters changed standard from mpeg2 to h264 just in this summer.
http://www.digital-tv.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=235&Itemid=32
and (your link):
http://www.kigeit.org.pl/stirc/pliki/20080403_parametry_techniczne_DTT.htm
"4. Standard kodowania sygnału wizji:

     tylko H.264/AVC".

Only H.264/AVC.

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Re: [linux-dvb] [OT] Re: Aver saa7135 cards.

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Krzysztof Burghardt nagli:

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2008/9/1 Wieslaw Kierbedz <[email protected]>:

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By the way.
I thought about MPEG4/H.264 section on wiki pages. In Poland DVB-T+ is most used standard.

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AFAIN there is no _official_ directive or standard for DVB in Poland. There is a only a recommendation form UKE [1]. In short, minimal requirements are DVB-T (v1), MPEG-4 AVC (aka H.264) and DolbyDigital+ (EAC3).

There is a decision.
Due to number of possible programs and frequencies limit polish DBT stations will work with H.264.
Most of test transmiters changed standard from mpeg2 to h264 just in this summer.
http://www.digital-tv.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=235&Itemid=32
and (your link):
http://www.kigeit.org.pl/stirc/pliki/20080403_parametry_techniczne_DTT.htm
"4. Standard kodowania sygnału wizji:

     tylko H.264/AVC".

Only H.264/AVC.

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Re: [linux-dvb] [OT] Re: Aver saa7135 cards.

W dniu 1 września 2008 11:51 użytkownik Wieslaw Kierbedz

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Due to number of possible programs and frequencies limit polish DBT stations will work with H.264.
Most of test transmiters changed standard from mpeg2 to h264 just in this summer.

That is true. But I'm sure that KIGEiT, Instytutu Łączności and broadcasters cannot made anything a national standard. According to Polish law[1] such decision can be made only by minister. Minister did not make any decisions yet, so there is no national standard for DVB in Poland.

[1] article 132, paragraph 2, "Prawo telekomunikacyjne" (Dz. U. z dnia 3 sierpnia 2004 r.)

     http://isip.sejm.gov.pl/servlet/Search?todo=open&id=WDU20041711800

Regards,

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