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linux-dvb Pauli Borodulin 6 participants 10 messages Jan 6, 2009 – Jan 15, 2009 1 message not in the archive Media (V4L/DVB)

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the description "DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree in October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both trees are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I fear that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb. Also, the driver is not only DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040. But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and Kristian Slavov?

Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

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Den 2009-01-06 13:13, Pauli Borodulin skrev:

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the description "DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree in October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both trees are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I fear that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb. Also, the driver is not only DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040. But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and Kristian Slavov?

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Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

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Having a VP-3030 (DVB-T) I can tell you that this card isn't supported by the manu tree - but hopefully it will be someday

/Max

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

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Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the description "DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree in October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both trees are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Is s2-liplianin working for you (apart from the remote control support) ?

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Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I fear that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb.

The major difference between the two repositories is that s2-liplianin uses the S2API (API v5, which has already been released in kernel 2.6.28) and Manu's tree uses the Multiproto API (which will not be released). So s2-liplianin is much closer to v4l-dvb and could easily be merged in. I saw that Igor synchronized with v4l-dvb just 2 days ago. So s2-liplianin is the main mantis repository. Manu's tree hasn't been touched for 3 months.

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Also, the driver is not only
DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

Why will it delay it?

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For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Great! Please post your remote control patch to the mailing list. It would be best to patch s2-liplianin if possible but Manu's tree is probably no different for this.

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But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Me too, I would like to see s2-liplianin merged into v4l-dvb as soon as possible.

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Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and Kristian Slavov?

Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

Regards,
Hans

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For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Great job, Pauli!
But for me personally there is a bigger problem vith VP-2040. That the CAM support is not functional yet, so I can use this card for just 6 free channels out of ~90 under Linux...

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Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

I'm fine with

http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis

too.

Unfortunately, I'm sticked to kernels <= 2.6.26.x, because I can't compile it under 2.6.27 anymore. Can you compile s2-liplianin for 2.6.27.x/28.x? Do the modules work for the VP-2033?

Ciao Ruediger D.

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should

already

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be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

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I'm fine with

http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis

too.

Unfortunately, I'm sticked to kernels <= 2.6.26.x, because I can't compile it under 2.6.27 anymore.

So you are, er, not fine then? ;)

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Can you compile s2-liplianin for 2.6.27.x/28.x?

Yes and yes.

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Do the modules work for
the VP-2033?

Why don't you try it and report? The VP-2040 cable card is working :
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2009-January/031350.html

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Ciao Ruediger D.

Regards,
Hans

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В сообщении от 6 January 2009 14:13:50 Pauli Borodulin написал(а):

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the description "DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree in October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both trees are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I fear that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb. Also, the driver is not only DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

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For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040. But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and Kristian Slavov?

Anyone and everyone is permitted to take anything and everything from s2-liplianin. The tree was made for testing purposes. If it works, than it works:) Me and Manu Abraham is not a friends, so ask him to make a pull request for mantis. And after that we(we like community) with combined efforts bring it to v4l-dvb.

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Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

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Hans Werner schrieb:

I'm fine with

http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis

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too.

Unfortunately, I'm sticked to kernels <= 2.6.26.x, because I can't compile it under 2.6.27 anymore.

So you are, er, not fine then? ;)

Hans, you are right when you say I was not precise enough. Manu's driver worked perfect for me, as long as there was no kernel 2.6.27.x.

Since the arrival of 2.6.27.x I'm disappointed about the fact that I can't upgrade to a recent kernel!

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Can you compile s2-liplianin for 2.6.27.x/28.x?

Yes and yes.

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Do the modules work for
the VP-2033?

Why don't you try it and report? The VP-2040 cable card is working :
http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2009-January/031350.html

I'll give it a try and will report!

Ciao Ruediger D.

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Datum: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:58:08 +0200
Von: "Igor M. Liplianin" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] The status and future of Mantis driver

В сообщении от 6 January 2009 14:13:50 Pauli Borodulin написал(а):

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should already be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the description "DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree in October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both trees are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I fear that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb. Also, the driver is not only DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

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For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040. But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and Kristian Slavov?

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Anyone and everyone is permitted to take anything and everything from s2-liplianin.
The tree was made for testing purposes. If it works, than it works:) Me and Manu Abraham is not a friends, so ask him to make a pull request for mantis.
And after that we(we like community) with combined efforts bring it to v4l-dvb.

Manu,

will you issue the pull request for the mantis driver?

The version at s2-liplianin is synchronised with the current kernel and is functional for a number of cards.

Please respond.

Hans

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Regards,
Pauli Borodulin

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Quoted 17 lines · Hans Werner

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Datum: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:58:08 +0200
Von: "Igor M. Liplianin" <[email protected]>
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] The status and future of Mantis driver

В сообщении от 6 January 2009 14:13:50 Pauli Borodulin написал(а):

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Heya!

I found out that there is some new activity on Manu Abraham's Mantis driver, so I thought I could throw in some thoughts about it.

I have been using Manu's Mantis driver (http://www.jusst.de/hg/mantis)
for over two years now. I have a VP-2033 card (DVB-C) and at least for the last year the driver has worked without any hickups in my daily (VDR) use. For a long time I have thought that the driver should

already

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be merged to the v4l-dvb tree.

Igor M. Liplianin has created a new tree
(http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin) with the

description

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"DVB-S(S2) drivers for Linux". Mantis driver was merged into the tree

in

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October and since then some fixes has also been applied to the driver. Some of these fixes already exist in Manu's tree, some don't. Both

trees

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are missing the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040.

Until merging of the driver into s2-liplianin, there was a single tree for the Mantis driver development. Now that there are two trees, I

fear

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that the development could scatter if there's no clear idea how the driver is going to get into v4l-dvb. Also, the driver is not only DVB-S(S2), but it also contains support for VP-2033 (DVB-C), VP-2040 (DVB-C) and VP-3030 (DVB-T). DVB-S(S2) stuff will probably greatly(?) delay getting the support for DVB-C/T Mantis cards into v4l-dvb.

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For my personal use I have created a patch against the latest v4l-dvb based on Manu's Mantis tree including the remote control support for VP-2033 and VP-2040. But what I would really like to see is Mantis driver merged into v4l-dvb and later into mainstream.

Igor, what are your thoughts about the Mantis driver? How about the other Mantis users, like Marko Ristola, Roland Scheidegger, and

Kristian

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Slavov?

Anyone and everyone is permitted to take anything and everything from s2-liplianin.
The tree was made for testing purposes. If it works, than it works:) Me and Manu Abraham is not a friends, so ask him to make a pull request for mantis.
And after that we(we like community) with combined efforts bring it to v4l-dvb.

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Manu,

will you issue the pull request for the mantis driver?

The version at s2-liplianin is synchronised with the current kernel and

is functional

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for a number of cards.

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No, the Mantis driver from the s2 liplianin tree will not be pulled in as it is.

It is way under work. Look out for changes in the
http://jusst.de/hg/mantis
By just splitting up the user base, you have made this process a bit longer,
that's what it is.

Longer? On the contrary -- the s2-liplianin repository is well in advance of the one at jusst.de. I didn't split any userbase myself. I remind everyone that the repository at jusst.de does not compile with kernel 2.6.28 and does not use the current API, namely S2API. Fortunately the work to bring mantis up to date for the current kernel has already been done, just not by you, and it is in s2-liplianin. You could and should benefit rapidly from this like everyone else.

To keep your userbase you need to get up to date and merge mantis into the kernel.

Hans

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