Installation of Cinergy HTC USB Driver in Ubuntu Jaunty
Hallo
I have a Terratec Cinergy HTC USB XS Stick and want to use this with Me-TV in order to record and view TV via Cable (Germany).
My research shows that a driver is in development under this link
http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5?title=Terratec_HTC_XS&oldid=2804.
This link offers no instructions to installation, I was hoping that it would be included In Ubuntu Jaunty, alas to no avail. I am hoping that you can help me further or at least tell me in which Kernel release this driver will be integrated.
Thanks in advance
Peter Hoyland
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Hallo
I have a Terratec Cinergy HTC USB XS Stick and want to use this with Me-TV in order to record and view TV via Cable (Germany).
My research shows that a driver is in development under this link
http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5?title=Terratec_HTC_XS&oldid=2804.
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This link offers no instructions to installation, I was hoping that it would be included In Ubuntu Jaunty, alas to no avail. I am hoping that you can help me further or at least tell me in which Kernel release this driver will be integrated.
Thanks in advance
Peter Hoyland
This device is supported in Markus's closed source driver only. It will not be merged into the mainline kernel, and there are no plans at this time for anyone else to reverse engineer the Micronas demod and write an open source driver.
My advice: return it and buy something supported.
Micronas actively screwed the Linux community when they had me do all the integration work for their device and then refused to let me release it. I wouldn't buy any of their products if you care about open source.
Devin
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Devin J. Heitmueller http://www.devinheitmueller.com AIM: devinheitmueller
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Hallo
I have a Terratec Cinergy HTC USB XS Stick and want to use this with Me-TV in order to record and view TV via Cable (Germany).
My research shows that a driver is in development under this link
http://mcentral.de/wiki/index.php5?title=Terratec_HTC_XS&oldid=2804.Quoted 7 lines
This link offers no instructions to installation, I was hoping that it would be included In Ubuntu Jaunty, alas to no avail. I am hoping that you can help me further or at least tell me in which Kernel release this driver will be integrated.
Thanks in advance
Peter HoylandThis device is supported in Markus's closed source driver only. It will not be merged into the mainline kernel, and there are no plans at this time for anyone else to reverse engineer the Micronas demod and write an open source driver.
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My advice: return it and buy something supported.
Micronas actively screwed the Linux community when they had me do all the integration work for their device and then refused to let me release it. I wouldn't buy any of their products if you care about open source.
There is no code to merge for the mainline kernel this is why it will not be merged actually. The driver is userland based and works with LD_PRELOAD right infront of the existing em28xx driver, the patched one is just required in order to support VBI. It can be seen as firmware from userland.
This is a new framework providing the v4l and dvb configuration framework from userland and provides support from tested 2.6.10+ (possibly earlier ones already)
There's no need for Micronas nor Trident to provide such kerneldrivers as long as the userland driver is available. It's also much easier to install than the earlier versions.
regards,
Markus
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There's no need for Micronas nor Trident to provide such kerneldrivers as long as the userland driver is available. It's also much easier to install than the earlier versions.
Markus, This is your typical self-serving nonsense and it only serves to confuse the non-technical Linux community. Please don't try to spread your non-GPL tree and userland rhetoric on the list as it's not welcome.
This mailing list is dedicated the v4l-dvb GPL source code trees and associated applications. As far as I'm concerned your opinion is not welcome. Please keep all conversation related to promoting and developing the main repositories please.
Peter, Devin is correct. If a vendor will not provide a driver then vote with your pocket and buy another product. If you do anything else you're not helping the rest of the community.
I (occasionally) speak on behalf of a vendor.
- Steve
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This device is supported in Markus's closed source driver only. It will not be merged into the mainline kernel, and there are no plans at this time for anyone else to reverse engineer the Micronas demod and write an open source driver.
Message to all:
If some kind individual would mail me a Cinergy HTC USB stick, with the Micronas Demod, then I'd be happy to spend my free time reverse engineering the demod and creating a GPL driver.
I'm tired of the Micronas nonsense so let's get a barebones GPL driver in v4l-dvb.
If someone will ship me the hardware I'll do the rest.
- Steve
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There's no need for Micronas nor Trident to provide such kerneldrivers as long as the userland driver is available. It's also much easier to install than the earlier versions.
Markus, This is your typical self-serving nonsense and it only serves to confuse the non-technical Linux community. Please don't try to spread your non-GPL tree and userland rhetoric on the list as it's not welcome.
it serves the question about linux support for those devices, if more information is needed about it I can be contacted directly of course.
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This mailing list is dedicated the v4l-dvb GPL source code trees and associated applications. As far as I'm concerned your opinion is not welcome. Please keep all conversation related to promoting and developing the main repositories please.
maybe put up a policy, and also list devices which require a closed source firmware which are basically alot linux supported devices already. I'm mainly considered about having support for that, if you don't like the way it is supported try to start to reverse engineer it and don't bother about it.
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Peter, Devin is correct. If a vendor will not provide a driver then vote with your pocket and buy another product. If you do anything else you're not helping the rest of the community.
best regards,
Markus
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There's no need for Micronas nor Trident to provide such kerneldrivers as long as the userland driver is available. It's also much easier to install than the earlier versions.
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Markus, This is your typical self-serving nonsense and it only serves to confuse the non-technical Linux community. Please don't try to spread your non-GPL tree and userland rhetoric on the list as it's not welcome.
it serves the question about linux support for those devices, if more information is needed about it I can be contacted directly of course.
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0802.0/0015.html
even Greg Kroah adviced to use for example USBFS for closed source drivers, and even pointed out to the usb mailinglist for that a while ago, so I'd say it has a valid reason to coexist now.
best regards,
Markus
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This mailing list is dedicated the v4l-dvb GPL source code trees and associated applications. As far as I'm concerned your opinion is not welcome. Please keep all conversation related to promoting and developing the main repositories please.
maybe put up a policy, and also list devices which require a closed source firmware which are basically alot linux supported devices already. I'm mainly considered about having support for that, if you don't like the way it is supported try to start to reverse engineer it and don't bother about it.
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Peter, Devin is correct. If a vendor will not provide a driver then vote with your pocket and buy another product. If you do anything else you're not helping the rest of the community.
best regards,
Markus
Am Samstag, den 25.04.2009, 23:33 +0800 schrieb Markus Rechberger:
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There's no need for Micronas nor Trident to provide such kerneldrivers as long as the userland driver is available. It's also much easier to install than the earlier versions.
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Markus, This is your typical self-serving nonsense and it only serves to confuse the non-technical Linux community. Please don't try to spread your non-GPL tree and userland rhetoric on the list as it's not welcome.
it serves the question about linux support for those devices, if more information is needed about it I can be contacted directly of course.
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http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0802.0/0015.html
even Greg Kroah adviced to use for example USBFS for closed source drivers, and even pointed out to the usb mailinglist for that a while ago, so I'd say it has a valid reason to coexist now.
best regards,
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This mailing list is dedicated the v4l-dvb GPL source code trees and associated applications. As far as I'm concerned your opinion is not welcome. Please keep all conversation related to promoting and developing the main repositories please.
maybe put up a policy, and also list devices which require a closed source firmware which are basically alot linux supported devices already. I'm mainly considered about having support for that, if you don't like the way it is supported try to start to reverse engineer it and don't bother about it.
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Peter, Devin is correct. If a vendor will not provide a driver then vote with your pocket and buy another product. If you do anything else you're not helping the rest of the community.
best regards,
Markus
I would like to hear Ralph's comments on it.
So far you have done a very good job to confuse all others.
But that is the only thing, I can confirm for sure.
That Greg is alright with you, I seriously doubt ...
Cheers,
Hermann