proper name for userspace package?

I'm wondering what the preferred name is for the userspace package.

The tarball is "nilfs-utils" but debian has "nilfs2-tools" - is there a preference, or is this a debian convention that caused the rename?

Thanks,
-Eric

(Cc added to Debian maintainer)

I don't know the how and why. The btrfs was also packaged with the "-tools" convention in Debian. On the one hand, we can see all the convensions like "-utils", "-tools", and "progs" there.

Personally, I like the "-tools" convension for new ones.

Regards,
Ryusuke Konishi

Ok, thanks. If it was due to a debian convention, then I may wind up following the Fedora convention (if there is one ;)

-Eric

it's my own aim to get some sort of uniformity with package names in debian, so that we have $filesystem-tools for new packages. new means basically almost anything after e2fsutils.

actually, i should rename it from nilfs2-tools to nilfs-tools. unfortunately, in debian we have a quite stupid thing called NEW queue which make such a simple rename have a penalty of 4 to 8 weeks of waiting until ftp-masters unblock it. but i still might do that at some point (unless Ryusuke dislikes it ;).

for fedora/rh, if you don't have people with a quirk for uniformity, you might just want to go with the upstream name as it's the way of the least surprise for the user.

Regards,
Daniel

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Thanks. I felt this implicitly, and now I get it straight from you.

Well, I don't mind either. I'm accountable for part of the confusion especially for the version number ;)

"nilfs-tools" sounds simpler. Umm, actually it would be better in the long term because the nilfs package already has versions related to the filesystem version (e.g. -2.x.y). At least I don't have any reason to object to the rename.

I just realized that ocfs2-tools package has versions 1.x.y.

Thanks,
Ryusuke Konishi

ok, i think so too. i just renamed in debian (well, i've uploaded it.. it will not wait for 0 to \infty for ftp-masters re-approval in the NEW queue :/).

i heard, that ocfs2 is called ocfs2 because ocfs1 was oracle intern only. not sure if that's true though.

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No, it's not. :-) OCFS2 is a POSIX compliant filesystem, OCFS isn't.

http://oss.oracle.com/projects/ocfs/

# Note: OCFS is not intended to be a POSIX compliant file system, there are no

# guarantees that timestamp updates or inode changes are similar in behaviour
# as other filesystems on the same platform or especially on different
# operating systems. Version 1 is specifically designed for Oracle Database
# files, create, move, delete and backup. It is well possible that certain OS
# commands will show different results, this is not considered a malfunction
# inside ocfs. We try when possible and where possible to stick to standard
# behaviour with error messages, e.g. ENOSPACE, etc. However, at the minimum,
# what is required for Oracle to work properly is implemented, anything more
# is not a guarantee.

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