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RFC PATCH Superseded Dirk Brandewie 6 participants 19 messages Oct 26, 2010 – Nov 2, 2010 13 messages not in the archive

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RFC PATCH 1/1 Adding DTB to architecture independent vmlinux

Hi All,

I am working on working on adding support device tree support to an x86 based platform, hpa pointed out that the device tree blob is architecture independent and should be part of the generic kernel.

The patch below is a first cut at adding dtb support to the architecture independent kernel and adding a generic dts->dtb build rule.

This has only been tested on x86.

Comments/suggestions gratefully accepted.

--Dirk

of: add support for linking platform dtb into vmlinux

From: Dirk Brandewie <[email protected]>

This patch adds support for linking a device tree blob into vmlinux. The platform DTB to be built and linked into the kernel is specified by passing PLATFORM_DTB=<platform name> to make.

The command:
make PLATFORM_DTB=ce4100

will link the device tree blob into vmlinux

---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S |    5 ++---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.lds.S      |    5 ++---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.ps3.lds.S  |    5 ++---
 arch/x86/kernel/Makefile            |   15 +++++++++++++++
 include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h   |   12 ++++++++++++
 scripts/Makefile.lib                |    7 +++++++
 7 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S +2 -3
index 856dc78..c23145f 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start_opd)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start_opd)
@@ -21,9 +22,7 @@ SECTIONS
     *(.got2)
     __got2_end = .;
 
-    _dtb_start = .;
-    *(.kernel:dtb)
-    _dtb_end = .;
+    KERNEL_DTB()
 
     _vmlinux_start =  .;
     *(.kernel:vmlinux.strip)
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.lds.S +2 -3
index 0962d62..f5b9c56 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start)
@@ -22,9 +23,7 @@ SECTIONS
   }
 
   . = ALIGN(8);
-  _dtb_start = .;
-  .kernel:dtb : { *(.kernel:dtb) }
-  _dtb_end = .;
+  KERNEL_DTB()
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
   _vmlinux_start =  .;
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.ps3.lds.S +2 -3
index aaa469c..246d227 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start)
@@ -8,9 +9,7 @@ SECTIONS
   _vmlinux_end =  .;
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
-  _dtb_start = .;
-  .kernel:dtb : { *(.kernel:dtb) }
-  _dtb_end = .;
+  KERNEL_DTB()
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
   _initrd_start =  .;
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +15 -0
index 3068e1e..992b3dd 100644
@@ -120,6 +120,21 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_SWIOTLB)			+= pci-swiotlb.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_X86_OF)			+= prom.o
 
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_OF),y)
+ifneq ($(PLATFORM_DTB),)
+obj-y += $(PLATFORM_DTB).dtb.o
+endif
+endif
+
+dtstree	:= $(srctree)/arch/x86/boot/dts
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb: $(dtstree)/%.dts
+	$(call if_changed,dtc)
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
+	@echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"' > $@
+	@echo '.incbin "$<" ' >> $@
+
 ###
 # 64 bit specific files
 ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_64),y)
include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h +12 -0
index 8a92a17..5729a24 100644
@@ -146,6 +146,14 @@
 #define TRACE_SYSCALLS()
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_OF
+#define KERNEL_DTB() _dtb_start = .;	    				\
+		   *(.kernel:dtb)					\
+		   _dtb_end = .;					
+#else
+ KERNEL_DTB()
+#endif
+
 /* .data section */
 #define DATA_DATA							\
 	*(.data)							\
@@ -245,6 +253,10 @@
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__end_pci_fixups_suspend) = .;		\
 	}								\
 									\
+	.dtb : AT(ADDR(.dtb) - LOAD_OFFSET) {				\
+	     KERNEL_DTB()      		    				\
+	}		   						\
+								\
 	/* Built-in firmware blobs */					\
 	.builtin_fw        : AT(ADDR(.builtin_fw) - LOAD_OFFSET) {	\
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start_builtin_fw) = .;			\
scripts/Makefile.lib +7 -0
index 54fd1b7..ce32644 100644
@@ -207,6 +207,13 @@ quiet_cmd_gzip = GZIP    $@
 cmd_gzip = (cat $(filter-out FORCE,$^) | gzip -f -9 > $@) || \
 	(rm -f $@ ; false)
 
+# DTC
+#  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+DTC = $(objtree)/scripts/dtc/dtc
+
+quiet_cmd_dtc = DTC	$@
+      cmd_dtc = $(DTC) -O dtb -o $(obj)/$*.dtb -b 0 -p 1024 $(dtstree)/$*.dts
 
 # Bzip2
 # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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#2 lore raw
Quoted 15 lines · Dirk Brandewie

Hi All,

I am working on working on adding support device tree support to an x86 based platform, hpa pointed out that the device tree blob is architecture independent and should be part of the generic kernel.

The patch below is a first cut at adding dtb support to the architecture independent kernel and adding a generic dts->dtb build rule.

This has only been tested on x86.

Comments/suggestions gratefully accepted.

--Dirk

Quoted 7 lines

of: add support for linking platform dtb into vmlinux

From: Dirk Brandewie <[email protected]>

This patch adds support for linking a device tree blob into vmlinux. The platform DTB to be built and linked into the kernel is specified by passing PLATFORM_DTB=<platform name> to make.

I don't think it is worth trying to do this in a cross-architecture way. The powerpc zImage wrappers are already very platform-specific code, and there are no assumptions made about how a dtb image is linked into the wrapper. A wrapper could even link in multiple dtb images.

For the x86 code, linking the dtb into the vmlinux itself is not something that is desired without the option of selecting it between multiple linked-in dtb files if firmware doesn't pass one in for you. This will require some discussion about how best to manage dtbs before merging a patch like this.

Quoted 27 lines

The command:
make PLATFORM_DTB=ce4100

will link the device tree blob into vmlinux

---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S |    5 ++---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.lds.S      |    5 ++---
 arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.ps3.lds.S  |    5 ++---
 arch/x86/kernel/Makefile            |   15 +++++++++++++++
 include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h   |   12 ++++++++++++
 scripts/Makefile.lib                |    7 +++++++
 7 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S +1 -0
index 856dc78..c23145f 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start_opd)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start_opd)

arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S SECTIONS · line 25

Quoted 7 lines
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S +1 -3
@@ -21,9 +22,7 @@ SECTIONS
     *(.got2)
     __got2_end = .;
 
-    _dtb_start = .;
-    *(.kernel:dtb)
-    _dtb_end = .;
+    KERNEL_DTB()

Has this been compile tested? I don't believe the powerpc boot wrapper code (arch/powerpc/boot/*) will include stuff from linux/asm-generic because it is intended to be a completely independent C environment.

Quoted 56 lines
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.coff.lds.S +0 -0
     _vmlinux_start =  .;
     *(.kernel:vmlinux.strip)
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.lds.S +2 -3
index 0962d62..f5b9c56 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start)
@@ -22,9 +23,7 @@ SECTIONS
   }
 
   . = ALIGN(8);
-  _dtb_start = .;
-  .kernel:dtb : { *(.kernel:dtb) }
-  _dtb_end = .;
+  KERNEL_DTB()
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
   _vmlinux_start =  .;
arch/powerpc/boot/zImage.ps3.lds.S +2 -3
index aaa469c..246d227 100644
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
+#include <asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h>
 OUTPUT_ARCH(powerpc:common)
 ENTRY(_zimage_start)
 EXTERN(_zimage_start)
@@ -8,9 +9,7 @@ SECTIONS
   _vmlinux_end =  .;
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
-  _dtb_start = .;
-  .kernel:dtb : { *(.kernel:dtb) }
-  _dtb_end = .;
+  KERNEL_DTB()
 
   . = ALIGN(4096);
   _initrd_start =  .;
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +5 -0
index 3068e1e..992b3dd 100644
@@ -120,6 +120,21 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_SWIOTLB)			+= pci-swiotlb.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_X86_OF)			+= prom.o
 
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_OF),y)
+ifneq ($(PLATFORM_DTB),)
+obj-y += $(PLATFORM_DTB).dtb.o
+endif
+endif

arch/x86/kernel/Makefile obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o · line 137

Quoted 10 lines
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +10 -0
+
+dtstree	:= $(srctree)/arch/x86/boot/dts
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb: $(dtstree)/%.dts
+	$(call if_changed,dtc)
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
+	@echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"' > $@
+	@echo '.incbin "$<" ' >> $@
+

Hmmm, I wonder if this hunk can be common for all architectures.

Quoted 55 lines
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +0 -0
 ###
 # 64 bit specific files
 ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_64),y)
include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h +12 -0
index 8a92a17..5729a24 100644
@@ -146,6 +146,14 @@
 #define TRACE_SYSCALLS()
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_OF
+#define KERNEL_DTB() _dtb_start = .;	    				\
+		   *(.kernel:dtb)					\
+		   _dtb_end = .;					
+#else
+ KERNEL_DTB()
+#endif
+
 /* .data section */
 #define DATA_DATA							\
 	*(.data)							\
@@ -245,6 +253,10 @@
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__end_pci_fixups_suspend) = .;		\
 	}								\
 									\
+	.dtb : AT(ADDR(.dtb) - LOAD_OFFSET) {				\
+	     KERNEL_DTB()      		    				\
+	}		   						\
+								\
 	/* Built-in firmware blobs */					\
 	.builtin_fw        : AT(ADDR(.builtin_fw) - LOAD_OFFSET) {	\
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start_builtin_fw) = .;			\
scripts/Makefile.lib +7 -0
index 54fd1b7..ce32644 100644
@@ -207,6 +207,13 @@ quiet_cmd_gzip = GZIP    $@
 cmd_gzip = (cat $(filter-out FORCE,$^) | gzip -f -9 > $@) || \
 	(rm -f $@ ; false)
 
+# DTC
+#  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+DTC = $(objtree)/scripts/dtc/dtc
+
+quiet_cmd_dtc = DTC	$@
+      cmd_dtc = $(DTC) -O dtb -o $(obj)/$*.dtb -b 0 -p 1024 $(dtstree)/$*.dts
 
 # Bzip2
 # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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#4 lore raw
Quoted 30 lines · Grant Likely
Quoted 15 lines · Dirk Brandewie

Hi All,

I am working on working on adding support device tree support to an x86 based platform, hpa pointed out that the device tree blob is architecture independent and should be part of the generic kernel.

The patch below is a first cut at adding dtb support to the architecture independent kernel and adding a generic dts->dtb build rule.

This has only been tested on x86.

Comments/suggestions gratefully accepted.

--Dirk

Quoted 7 lines

of: add support for linking platform dtb into vmlinux

From: Dirk Brandewie<[email protected]>

This patch adds support for linking a device tree blob into vmlinux. The platform DTB to be built and linked into the kernel is specified by passing PLATFORM_DTB=<platform name> to make.

I don't think it is worth trying to do this in a cross-architecture way. The powerpc zImage wrappers are already very platform-specific code, and there are no assumptions made about how a dtb image is linked into the wrapper. A wrapper could even link in multiple dtb images.

Quoted 6 lines

For the x86 code, linking the dtb into the vmlinux itself is not something that is desired without the option of selecting it between multiple linked-in dtb files if firmware doesn't pass one in for you. This will require some discussion about how best to manage dtbs before merging a patch like this.

I have to disagree, strongly, that it is not worth doing a cross-architectural patch. There is nothing that prevents an architecture from having any number of different ones *in addition to* the independent way, but that would clearly establish a baseline that everyone can benefit from. This is a Very Good Thing[TM]. We already have too many gratuitous differences between architectures in Linux.

As far as linking in multiple dtbs, the one architecture-independent way we have to pass data into the kernel is the kernel command line, and it might make sense to have a command line parameter like "dtb=foo", although I expect the vast majority of all users who don't rely on the firmware/bootloader to feed them information are going to have one kernel image per platform anyway, just for space reasons.

-hpa

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#6 lore raw

RFC PATCH v2 1/1 Adding DTB to architecture independent vmlinux

Here is V2 of the patch.

The support for linking in the DTB is now a config option. The location of the config option is completely arbitrary.

The name of the added section has been changed to avoid possible collision with the powerpc linkage of the DTB into the final image.

ATM this patch would add a redundant/unused section (without name collision) to the microblaze if configured in since I do not understand why the padding added to _fdt_start.

This has only been tested on x86.

Comments Suggestions?

--Dirk

of: add support for linking platform dtb into vmlinux

From: Dirk Brandewie <[email protected]>

This patch adds support for linking a device tree blob into vmlinux. The platform DTB to be built and linked into the kernel is specified by passing PLATFORM_DTB=<platform name> to make.

The command:
make PLATFORM_DTB=ce4100

will link the device tree blob into vmlinux

---
 arch/x86/kernel/Makefile          |   15 +++++++++++++++
 include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h |   15 +++++++++++++++
 init/Kconfig                      |    7 +++++++
 scripts/Makefile.lib              |    7 +++++++
 5 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +15 -0
index 3068e1e..0f5eb1d 100644
@@ -120,6 +120,21 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_SWIOTLB)			+= pci-swiotlb.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_X86_OF)			+= prom.o
 
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_KERNEL_DTB),y)
+ifneq ($(PLATFORM_DTB),)
+obj-y += $(PLATFORM_DTB).dtb.o
+endif
+endif
+
+dtstree	:= $(srctree)/arch/x86/boot/dts
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb: $(dtstree)/%.dts
+	$(call if_changed,dtc)
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
+	@echo '.section .dtb,"a"' > $@
+	@echo '.incbin "$<" ' >> $@
+
 ###
 # 64 bit specific files
 ifeq ($(CONFIG_X86_64),y)
include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h +15 -0
index 8a92a17..b18123a 100644
@@ -146,6 +146,19 @@
 #define TRACE_SYSCALLS()
 #endif
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_KERNEL_DTB
+#define KERNEL_DTB							\
+	. = ALIGN(4);							\
+	.dtb : AT(ADDR(.dtb) - LOAD_OFFSET) {				\
+		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__dtb_start) = .;			\
+		*(.dtb)							\
+		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__dtb_end) = .;				\
+	}
+
+#else
+#define KERNEL_DTB
+#endif
+
 /* .data section */
 #define DATA_DATA							\
 	*(.data)							\
@@ -245,6 +258,8 @@
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__end_pci_fixups_suspend) = .;		\
 	}								\
 									\
+	KERNEL_DTB							\
+									\
 	/* Built-in firmware blobs */					\
 	.builtin_fw        : AT(ADDR(.builtin_fw) - LOAD_OFFSET) {	\
 		VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start_builtin_fw) = .;			\
init/Kconfig +7 -0
index 2de5b1c..4a8802e 100644
@@ -1055,6 +1055,13 @@ config PCI_QUIRKS
           bugs/quirks. Disable this only if your target machine is
           unaffected by PCI quirks.
 
+config KERNEL_DTB
+       bool "Support linking a device tree blob into vmlinux"
+       default n
+       help
+         This option provides support for adding a device tree blob
+	 directly to vmlinux
+
 config SLUB_DEBUG
 	default y
 	bool "Enable SLUB debugging support" if EMBEDDED
scripts/Makefile.lib +7 -0
index 54fd1b7..ce32644 100644
@@ -207,6 +207,13 @@ quiet_cmd_gzip = GZIP    $@
 cmd_gzip = (cat $(filter-out FORCE,$^) | gzip -f -9 > $@) || \
 	(rm -f $@ ; false)
 
+# DTC
+#  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+DTC = $(objtree)/scripts/dtc/dtc
+
+quiet_cmd_dtc = DTC	$@
+      cmd_dtc = $(DTC) -O dtb -o $(obj)/$*.dtb -b 0 -p 1024 $(dtstree)/$*.dts
 
 # Bzip2
 # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

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#8 lore raw
Quoted 1 line · Dirk Brandewie

Here is V2 of the patch.

...

Quoted 13 lines
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +5 -0
index 3068e1e..0f5eb1d 100644
@@ -120,6 +120,21 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_SWIOTLB)			+= pci-swiotlb.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_X86_OF)			+= prom.o
 
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_KERNEL_DTB),y)
+ifneq ($(PLATFORM_DTB),)
+obj-y += $(PLATFORM_DTB).dtb.o
+endif
+endif

arch/x86/kernel/Makefile obj-$(CONFIG_X86_CHECK_BIOS_CORRUPTION) += check.o · line 137

Quoted 10 lines
arch/x86/kernel/Makefile +10 -0
+
+dtstree	:= $(srctree)/arch/x86/boot/dts
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb: $(dtstree)/%.dts
+	$(call if_changed,dtc)
+
+$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
+	@echo '.section .dtb,"a"' > $@
+	@echo '.incbin "$<" ' >> $@
+

I've been playing a bit with the patch, and would suggest something like the following for the second target:

	$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
		@echo '#include <asm/page.h>' >$@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE' >> $@
		@echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"' >> $@
		@echo '.global __$(*F)_dtb' >> $@
		@echo '__$(*F)_dtb:' >> $@
		@echo '.incbin "$<" ' >> $@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE' >> $@

Advantages:
1. Each blob gets a name that can be used to refer to it. This
allows multiple blobs to be built into a kernel, each with its own name. The name of each blob is taken from the file name, so a source
file abc.dts would produce a blob referred to as __abc_dtb.
2. Blobs are aligned on a page boundary and extend to the nearest
page boundary. Any blobs you don't care about can then easily be completely freed.

You might then use:

	obj-y += $(addprefix .dtb.o,$(PLATFORM_DTB))

to add blob names, but I'm not completely confident this is the way to go.

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#10 lore raw
Quoted 23 lines · David VomLehn

I've been playing a bit with the patch, and would suggest something like the following for the second target:

	$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
		@echo '#include<asm/page.h>'>$@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@
		@echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"'>>  $@
		@echo '.global __$(*F)_dtb'>>  $@
		@echo '__$(*F)_dtb:'>>  $@
		@echo '.incbin "$<" '>>  $@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@

Advantages:
1. Each blob gets a name that can be used to refer to it. This
allows multiple blobs to be built into a kernel, each with its own name. The name of each blob is taken from the file name, so a source
file abc.dts would produce a blob referred to as __abc_dtb.
2. Blobs are aligned on a page boundary and extend to the nearest
page boundary. Any blobs you don't care about can then easily be completely freed.

Quoted 5 lines

You might then use:

	obj-y += $(addprefix .dtb.o,$(PLATFORM_DTB))

to add blob names, but I'm not completely confident this is the way to go.

To be able to specify "dtb=<name>" on the command line, you want the name to be manifest in string form, rather than as a symbol. That means putting a header or something similar in front of the blobs.

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size could easily add more waste than it saves. In that case it probably would be better to put the stuff in the init area and copy the active blob to an allocated location.

-hpa

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Quoted 1 line · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

Quoted 2 lines

-hpa

Sebastian

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Quoted 6 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 1 line · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

So expanding to a page is a lot of memory, but it's pretty important to jettison unused DTBs.

-hpa

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Quoted 8 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 6 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 1 line · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

Quoted 4 lines

So expanding to a page is a lot of memory, but it's pretty important to jettison unused DTBs.

-hpa

IIRC, the slab allocator will simply use the buddy allocator when allocating close to or above the page size. So, this will use 8192 bytes whether you use what I had proposed or you dynamically allocate space and copy it from the .init section.

If memory usage is not an issue, it would be nice to avoid the copy. Another possible consideration is image size. If you don't do the rounding, you'll have a smaller boot image. Not really sure how to weigh these and whether there are other considerations.

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Quoted 19 lines · David VomLehn
Quoted 8 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 6 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 1 line · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

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So expanding to a page is a lot of memory, but it's pretty important to jettison unused DTBs.

      -hpa

IIRC, the slab allocator will simply use the buddy allocator when allocating close to or above the page size. So, this will use 8192 bytes whether you use what I had proposed or you dynamically allocate space and copy it from the .init section.

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If memory usage is not an issue, it would be nice to avoid the copy. Another possible consideration is image size. If you don't do the rounding, you'll have a smaller boot image. Not really sure how to weigh these and whether there are other considerations.

The choice to copy could be made a Kconfig option, but I doubt it is warranted. A one time copy of one or two pages at boot is pretty speedy. I'll let someone with benchmarks results prove me otherwise.

g.

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#20 lore raw
Quoted 25 lines · Grant Likely
Quoted 19 lines · David VomLehn
Quoted 8 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 6 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 1 line · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

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So expanding to a page is a lot of memory, but it's pretty important to jettison unused DTBs.

      -hpa

IIRC, the slab allocator will simply use the buddy allocator when allocating close to or above the page size. So, this will use 8192 bytes whether you use what I had proposed or you dynamically allocate space and copy it from the .init section.

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If memory usage is not an issue, it would be nice to avoid the copy. Another possible consideration is image size. If you don't do the rounding, you'll have a smaller boot image. Not really sure how to weigh these and whether there are other considerations.

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The choice to copy could be made a Kconfig option, but I doubt it is warranted. A one time copy of one or two pages at boot is pretty speedy. I'll let someone with benchmarks results prove me otherwise.

g.

It wouldn't surprise me if the time to copy weren't made up in one place or another by the smaller size. I'm happy with .init and a memcpy(). :-)

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Quoted 6 lines · Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
Quoted 2 lines · H. Peter Anvin

How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size

You usually pad the dtb by 1kib (-p 1024 in dtc). Converting all dtbs in powerpc's tree leads to:
991545 / 130 = 7627 bytes average.

If you're folding a whole batch of dtbs into the kernel, doing the 1kib padding on each is probably not sensible. The padding is so that tweaks to the dtb which require expansion can be done easily, but if you're relocating the dtb anyway, you can allocate more space at that time, with fdt_open_into().

That would bring the average size down to 6603 bytes (-p 1024 is "1024 bytes of extra space", not "expand to a 1024 byte boundary").

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Quoted 25 lines · David VomLehn

I've been playing a bit with the patch, and would suggest something like the following for the second target:

	$(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
		@echo '#include<asm/page.h>'>$@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@
		@echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"'>>  $@
		@echo '.global __$(*F)_dtb'>>  $@
		@echo '__$(*F)_dtb:'>>  $@
		@echo '.incbin "$<" '>>  $@
		@echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@

Advantages:
1. Each blob gets a name that can be used to refer to it. This
allows multiple blobs to be built into a kernel, each with its own name. The name of each blob is taken from the file name, so a source
file abc.dts would produce a blob referred to as __abc_dtb.
2. Blobs are aligned on a page boundary and extend to the nearest
page boundary. Any blobs you don't care about can then easily be completely freed.

You might then use:

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	obj-y += $(addprefix .dtb.o,$(PLATFORM_DTB))

to add blob names, but I'm not completely confident this is the way to go.

To be able to specify "dtb=<name>" on the command line, you want the name to be manifest in string form, rather than as a symbol. That means putting a header or something similar in front of the blobs.

Could you not iterate over the blobs and use the "compatible" property to match the string? It would seem to me that this would be the right thing to do in any case since it would then follow the standard method for interpreting that property.

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How big are these blobs in the typical case? Padding to the page size could easily add more waste than it saves. In that case it probably would be better to put the stuff in the init area and copy the active blob to an allocated location.

In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

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-hpa

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In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

The reason I mentioned dynamic allocation is that you still need to do dynamic allocation if you're using a blob from an external source. If you don't end up with pointers *into* the blob, though, then you don't need to do the relocation until some time before you jettison the init section.

However, I don't have a strong opinion about which way it's done.

-hpa

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Quoted 8 lines · David VomLehn

In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

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The reason I mentioned dynamic allocation is that you still need to do dynamic allocation if you're using a blob from an external source. If you don't end up with pointers *into* the blob, though, then you don't need to do the relocation until some time before you jettison the init section.

The way the dtb format is designed, you should almost never work with pointers into the the middle of the blob.

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Quoted 11 lines · David Gibson
Quoted 10 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 8 lines · David VomLehn

In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

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The reason I mentioned dynamic allocation is that you still need to do dynamic allocation if you're using a blob from an external source. If you don't end up with pointers *into* the blob, though, then you don't need to do the relocation until some time before you jettison the init section.

The way the dtb format is designed, you should almost never work with pointers into the the middle of the blob.

"Almost never"? That scares me when I hear it...

-hpa

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Quoted 17 lines · David Gibson
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Quoted 8 lines · David VomLehn

In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

The reason I mentioned dynamic allocation is that you still need to do dynamic allocation if you're using a blob from an external source. If you don't end up with pointers *into* the blob, though, then you don't need to do the relocation until some time before you jettison the init section.

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The way the dtb format is designed, you should almost never work with pointers into the the middle of the blob.

"Almost never"? That scares me when I hear it...

Heh, understandable. So, the dtb format is such that you want to work with internal offsets most of the time, not pointers into the middle. Except that of course, you will use transient internal pointers to grab pieces from the dtb - it's just best to avoid passing them around whenever you can.

The other case is that once the dtb is "frozen" (no more changes), it can be useful to keep around pointers to bits of data within the dtb, rather than duplicating each such thing in its own allocated buffer somewhere. e.g. I think once we unflatten the tree in powerpc, property values will still actually point to within the original dtb.

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Quoted 30 lines · H. Peter Anvin
Quoted 28 lines · David VomLehn

I've been playing a bit with the patch, and would suggest something like the following for the second target:

     $(obj)/%.dtb.S: $(obj)/%.dtb
             @echo '#include<asm/page.h>'>$@ @echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@ @echo '.section .kernel:dtb,"a"'>>  $@ @echo '.global __$(*F)_dtb'>>  $@ @echo '__$(*F)_dtb:'>>  $@ @echo '.incbin "$<" '>>  $@ @echo '.balign PAGE_SIZE'>>  $@

Advantages:
1.   Each blob gets a name that can be used to refer to it. This allows multiple blobs to be built into a kernel, each with its own name.  The name of each blob is taken from the file name, so a source
     file abc.dts would produce a blob referred to as __abc_dtb.
2.   Blobs are aligned on a page boundary and extend to the nearest page boundary. Any blobs you don't care about can then easily be completely freed.

You might then use:

     obj-y += $(addprefix .dtb.o,$(PLATFORM_DTB))

to add blob names, but I'm not completely confident this is the way to go.

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To be able to specify "dtb=<name>" on the command line, you want the name to be manifest in string form, rather than as a symbol.  That means putting a header or something similar in front of the blobs.

Could you not iterate over the blobs and use the "compatible" property to match the string? It would seem to me that this would be the right thing to do in any case since it would then follow the standard method for interpreting that property.

Hmmm, I had mistakenly thought that dtb=<blah> was proposed to pass in the address of a blob already loaded into memory (perhaps by grub), but I understand now. Yes, it could be performed by name. However, David's suggestion of passing in a compatible string better matches existing conventions.

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How big are these blobs in the typical case?  Padding to the page size could easily add more waste than it saves.  In that case it probably would be better to put the stuff in the init area and copy the active blob to an allocated location.

4-8k typically. They could also be compressed, but that doesn't gain a whole lot and it would complicate the process of scanning the compatible values as suggested above.

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In my case, where there are a lot of up-front reservations of memory at a static address, there is a fair amount of work to do before it's possible to do the dynamic address allocation for the blob's ultimate destination, but I'm okay with either doing blob size and address rounding or copying it from init. I don't see a benefit of supporting multiple approaches for Linux.

It is already possible to do allocation early allocation in both powerpc and arm. Also, blob relocation can be deferred until later in boot if need be. The flat tree can be accessed before relocating it. Just as long as it is done so before unflattening the tree (possibly as part of).

Regardless, Peter is absolutely right; the linked in .dtbs definitely must be in an init section so they can be discarded after copy.

g.

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On 10/27/2010 4:09 AM, Grant Likely wrote:

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I don't think it is worth trying to do this in a cross-architecture way.  The powerpc zImage wrappers are already very platform-specific code, and there are no assumptions made about how a dtb image is linked into the wrapper.  A wrapper could even link in multiple dtb images.

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For the x86 code, linking the dtb into the vmlinux itself is not something that is desired without the option of selecting it between multiple linked-in dtb files if firmware doesn't pass one in for you. This will require some discussion about how best to manage dtbs before merging a patch like this.

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I have to disagree, strongly, that it is not worth doing a cross-architectural patch.  There is nothing that prevents an architecture from having any number of different ones *in addition to* the independent way, but that would clearly establish a baseline that everyone can benefit from.  This is a Very Good Thing[TM].  We already have too many gratuitous differences between architectures in Linux.

The problem in this case is that it turns into a magic config option that explicitly restricts the number of platforms a kernel image will run on down to exactly one. This (particular) approach is 100% counter to the direction I've been trying to take embedded platforms over the last few years. I'm opposed to linking a single .dtb as a 'baseline' image because embedded system developers will start using and depending on that feature instead if implementing something that is multi-platform friendly.

That said, I'm not at all opposed to common infrastructure for linking one or more .dtb images into the kernel provided that each image is referred to by a separate symbol, and that it does not implement any kind of baseline semantics. Selection of the correct .dtb image from platform code should always be explicit; not implicit nor controlled by a single Kconfig setting.

So, if a patch is floated that provides linking multiple and arbitrary .dtb images into the kernel for use by other code, then I'm all for it. The problem of selecting /which/ dtb to use can be addressed (and debated) in a separate patch.

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As far as linking in multiple dtbs, the one architecture-independent way we have to pass data into the kernel is the kernel command line, and it might make sense to have a command line parameter like "dtb=foo",

Patches have been floated before to pass the .dtb address via the kernel command line, but they've not been pursued to completion. I have no problems with accepting cross-architecture patches to implement a dtb= kernel parameter, with the caveat that it wouldn't be applicable when the kernel command line is passed via the .dtb. :-)

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although I
expect the vast majority of all users who don't rely on the firmware/bootloader to feed them information are going to have one kernel image per platform anyway, just for space reasons.

Not really true. Currently on ARM many SoC family support multiple boards on a single kernel image with firmware only supplying a unique integer (machine id) to identify the board. See arch/arm/include/asm/mach/arch.h, grep for both MACHINE_START and lookup_machine_type in arch/arm/mach-*.

g.

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