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Greetings All,
After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list due to these results, I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking Subsystem I can start with. Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers so I have some idea of how to write drivers now and want to get my feet wet. In addition if I am still not trusted yet,that's OK too. :)
Thanks,
Nick

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Quoted 6 lines · nick

Greetings All,

After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list due to these results, I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking Subsystem I can start with. Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers ...

the fact that there is no such book as "essential kernel drivers"
probably tells everyone here all they need to know ...

rday

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Quoted 9 lines · Robert P. J. Day
Quoted 6 lines · nick

Greetings All,

After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list due to these results, I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking Subsystem I can start with. Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers ...

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the fact that there is no such book as "essential kernel drivers"
probably tells everyone here all they need to know ...

rday

That was a typo, I meant essential linux device drivers.

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Hello, Nick.

Quoted 6 lines · nick

Greetings All,
After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list due to these results, I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking Subsystem I can start with. Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers so I have some idea of how to write drivers now and want to get my feet wet. In addition if I am still not trusted yet,that's OK too. :)

Well, ideally what you should do is look through drivers/staging and select a driver that looks interesting to you and has some work that needs to be done, then you get a hardware for that particular driver. Please do not skip the step where you actually get the hardware, given your previous behavior I think we all can agree that is likely to happen though... Surprise us! ;-) If you have the hardware, you can run tests on it, stress test it or boot into Windows and see what the Windows driver does that the current Linux driver does not do.

Hopefully the hardware itself won't cost too much and is easily obtainable using Amazon or Ebay.

Hope it helps,
Levente
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Quoted 27 lines · Levente Kurusa

Hello, Nick.

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Greetings All,
After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list due to these results, I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking Subsystem I can start with. Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers so I have some idea of how to write drivers now and want to get my feet wet. In addition if I am still not trusted yet,that's OK too. :)

Well, ideally what you should do is look through drivers/staging and select a driver that looks interesting to you and has some work that needs to be done, then you get a hardware for that particular driver. Please do not skip the step where you actually get the hardware, given your previous behavior I think we all can agree that is likely to happen though... Surprise us! ;-) If you have the hardware, you can run tests on it, stress test it or boot into Windows and see what the Windows driver does that the current Linux driver does not do.

Hopefully the hardware itself won't cost too much and is easily obtainable using Amazon or Ebay.

Hope it helps,
Levente

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Did this get hijacked?

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Quoted 21 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 5 lines · Levente Kurusa

Hello, Nick.

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Greetings All,
After my terrible results before and getting banned from the list

due to these results,

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I am wondering if there is any work in the USB or Networking

Subsystem I can start with.

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Further more recently I read Essential Kernel Drivers so I have some

idea of how

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to write drivers now and want to get my feet wet. In addition if I

am still not

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trusted yet,that's OK too. :)

Well, ideally what you should do is look through drivers/staging and select a driver that looks interesting to you and has some work that needs to be done, then you get a hardware for that particular driver. Please do not skip the step where you actually get the hardware,

given

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your previous behavior I think we all can agree that is likely to

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happen

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though... Surprise us! ;-) If you have the hardware, you can run

tests

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on it, stress test it or boot into Windows and see what the Windows driver does that the current Linux driver does not do.

Hopefully the hardware itself won't cost too much and is easily

obtainable

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using Amazon or Ebay.

Hope it helps,
Levente

I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for. Nick _______________________________________________

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Did this get hijacked?

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I don't remember but my interest has always been in embedded and file systems. If the kernel has work in there areas, I am swamped with school work for the next few weeks but can start helping out afterwards.
Nick

Quoted 8 lines · Sudip Mukherjee
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I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few

would
someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

like which one? please name those few which are in staging..

regards
sudip

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I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the research about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

Thanks,
Levente
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Quoted 7 lines · Levente Kurusa
Quoted 3 lines · Nicholas Krause
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[...]

I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the research about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

I didn't write this. Are you intentionally trolling this?

The initial message under this subject had nothing to do with this. BTW - the atitiude is piss poor for what is SUPPOSED to be newbies area. Try taking some trips from Ernie and Fewer from Bert.

Ruben

PS - no need to CC me when I'm reading the list.

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Thanks,
Levente

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Quoted 11 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 7 lines · Levente Kurusa
Quoted 3 lines · Nicholas Krause
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[...]

I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the research about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

I didn't write this. Are you intentionally trolling this?

Nobody's claiming you did. This is a different thread to yours,
with a different subject line. Note that none of the quoted messages above had your name as attribution.

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The initial message under this subject had nothing to do with this. BTW - the atitiude is piss poor for what is SUPPOSED to be newbies area. Try taking some trips from Ernie and Fewer from Bert.

This particular newbie (nick) has a reasonably long and ignoble
history in the kernel development area. He used up quite a lot of the available polite late last summer, and isn't at the moment giving any indications that he's made any improvements.

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PS - no need to CC me when I'm reading the list.

It's the default position on these mailing lists. You're generally
not going to have anyone remember that you don't want to be CC'd. A message in your .sig to that effect might help, but it probably won't.

Hugo.

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Quoted 6 lines · Hugo Mills
Quoted 5 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 4 lines · Levente Kurusa
Quoted 3 lines · Nicholas Krause
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I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

Your 100% correct. I apologize

Ruben

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Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the research about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

I didn't write this. Are you intentionally trolling this?

Nobody's claiming you did. This is a different thread to yours,
with a different subject line. Note that none of the quoted messages above had your name as attribution.

Quoted 3 lines

The initial message under this subject had nothing to do with this. BTW - the atitiude is piss poor for what is SUPPOSED to be newbies area. Try taking some trips from Ernie and Fewer from Bert.

This particular newbie (nick) has a reasonably long and ignoble
history in the kernel development area. He used up quite a lot of the available polite late last summer, and isn't at the moment giving any indications that he's made any improvements.

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PS - no need to CC me when I'm reading the list.

It's the default position on these mailing lists. You're generally
not going to have anyone remember that you don't want to be CC'd. A message in your .sig to that effect might help, but it probably won't.

Hugo.

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Hugo Mills             | Be pure.
hugo at ... carfax.org.uk | Be vigilant.
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Quoted 50 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 6 lines · Hugo Mills
Quoted 5 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 4 lines · Levente Kurusa
Quoted 3 lines · Nicholas Krause
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[...]

I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware for.

Your 100% correct. I apologize

Ruben

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Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the research about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

I didn't write this. Are you intentionally trolling this?

Nobody's claiming you did. This is a different thread to yours,
with a different subject line. Note that none of the quoted messages above had your name as attribution.

Quoted 3 lines

The initial message under this subject had nothing to do with this. BTW - the atitiude is piss poor for what is SUPPOSED to be newbies area. Try taking some trips from Ernie and Fewer from Bert.

This particular newbie (nick) has a reasonably long and ignoble
history in the kernel development area. He used up quite a lot of the available polite late last summer, and isn't at the moment giving any indications that he's made any improvements.

Quoted 1 line

PS - no need to CC me when I'm reading the list.

It's the default position on these mailing lists. You're generally
not going to have anyone remember that you don't want to be CC'd. A message in your .sig to that effect might help, but it probably won't.

Hugo.

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Hugo Mills             | Be pure.
hugo at ... carfax.org.uk | Be vigilant.
http://carfax.org.uk/  | Behave.
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Look I really do want to try and improve my rep as I really enjoy learning and programming the kernel. I don't want to come up as I known everything I don't,all I am is some honest criticism of where I am going wrong.
Nick
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In reply to Hugo Mills

I have listened to peoples feedback. Am I still missing something as I now do
1. Build test all patches
2. Reading the code properly
3.Testing my patches
4.Listening to feedback
Nick

Quoted 36 lines · Hugo Mills
Quoted 5 lines · Ruben Safir
Quoted 4 lines · Levente Kurusa
Quoted 3 lines · Nicholas Krause
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[...]

I was interested in Socs in staging as I believe there are a few would someone like to point me to one that I can get hardware

for.

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Please read my message again. It should be YOU who does the

research

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about the work that YOU want to do, not us...

I didn't write this. Are you intentionally trolling this?

Nobody's claiming you did. This is a different thread to yours,
with a different subject line. Note that none of the quoted messages above had your name as attribution.

Quoted 2 lines

The initial message under this subject had nothing to do with this. BTW - the atitiude is piss poor for what is SUPPOSED to be newbies

area.

Quoted 1 line

Try taking some trips from Ernie and Fewer from Bert.

This particular newbie (nick) has a reasonably long and ignoble
history in the kernel development area. He used up quite a lot of the available polite late last summer, and isn't at the moment giving any indications that he's made any improvements.

Quoted 1 line

PS - no need to CC me when I'm reading the list.

It's the default position on these mailing lists. You're generally
not going to have anyone remember that you don't want to be CC'd. A message in your .sig to that effect might help, but it probably won't.

Hugo.

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Quoted 9 lines · Nicholas Krause <xerofoify <at> gmail.com> writes:

I have listened to peoples feedback. Am I still missing something as I now do
1. Build test all patches
2. Reading the code properly
3.Testing my patches
4.Listening to feedback
Nick

[trim]

Insert this:

X. Do My Own Research First, THEN ask questions

preferably at X = 0, 2, 4, 6, 8 of the above list.

Read a few netiquette/'how to write questions smart' manuals to learn how to let people /know/ you did your research.

If your school work gets in the way though, it probably means it's much more important and you should not miss it.

Cheers,

CHSMBIDWT/MSPANC.

el es

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Quoted 26 lines · el_es
Quoted 9 lines · Nicholas Krause <xerofoify <at> gmail.com> writes:

I have listened to peoples feedback. Am I still missing something as I now do
1. Build test all patches
2. Reading the code properly
3.Testing my patches
4.Listening to feedback
Nick

[trim]

Insert this:

X. Do My Own Research First, THEN ask questions

preferably at X = 0, 2, 4, 6, 8 of the above list.

Read a few netiquette/'how to write questions smart' manuals to learn how to let people /know/ you did your research.

If your school work gets in the way though, it probably means it's much more important and you should not miss it.

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Cheers,

CHSMBIDWT/MSPANC.

el es

That makes sense and I am doing my own research now. Furthermore I am able to handle my school work in top of kernel programming. Nick

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