If you want kbuild 2.5, tell Linus
Keith Owens <[email protected]> wrote:
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Then tell Linus that you want kbuild 2.5.
Don't tell me, I already know. Tell Linus, he is the bottleneck.
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It is a sad day when a fully tested and documented system that is faster and, above all, more accurate, cannot get into the kernel. Linus is judging kbuild 2.5 on its popularity and on personalities, not on its technical merits.
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I thought that Linus's agreement meant something, obviously it does not.
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Right, make Linus do what you want by impugning his technical judgment, calling him a liar, and asking people to flood his mailbox with complaints. Sure, THAT will work.
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It is a sad day when a fully tested and documented system that is faster and, above all, more accurate, cannot get into the kernel. Linus is judging kbuild 2.5 on its popularity and on personalities, not on its technical merits.
Right, make Linus do what you want by impugning his technical judgment, calling him a liar, and asking people to flood his mailbox with complaints. Sure, THAT will work.
It is still unfortunate that all contributions, especially larger scale ones, cannot be openly accepted and embraced. It isn't as if the change is overly invasive... if both system can operate in parallel, the impact is significantly less.
Alas, we have these things called precidents and processes that attempt to hone the quality of releases at the cost of potential productivity.
Keith: I do not think Linus is discouraging kbuild 2.5 due to popularity or personalities. I suspect he is discouraging it due to a healthy fear of the precident that it would set, as well as the chance that it would require a great deal more work and you and your collaborators all get hit by a bus ( or get a life? :-) ) tomorrow morning.
I'm not certain where the line is for 'breaking the change up', such that the effort does not become substantially more, but the requirement for the line has been decreed.
mark
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Hi,
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I suspect he is discouraging it due to a healthy fear of the precident that it would set, as well as the chance that it would require a great deal more work and you and your collaborators all get hit by a bus ( or get a life? :-) ) tomorrow morning.
I didn't yet die, and it isn't planned for the next years. I won't die as long as it's not implemented for me.
There are far more people who can speak kbuild-2.5 (or get into it) in the world than busses. I suspect that even after the worst, life goes on! And even Aunt Tillie could maintain kbuild-2.5....
Regards,
Thunder
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