umask.1p: Can we add a table for octal and symbolic notation?
Hi,
The POSIX.1 standard man page for umask is a really well written document but lacks some notes for beginners.
For example comparing umask.1p to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask>
I really liked how Wikipedia added table for showing octal digits in umask command to their corresponding action.
Can we do a similar thing for umask.1p or how can I contact The Open Group to make changes into their manual?
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Utkarsh Singh
Hello everybody,
i did no see any answer.
How is maintaining the posix-pages organized ?
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Hi,
The POSIX.1 standard man page for umask is a really well written document but lacks some notes for beginners.
For example comparing umask.1p to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask>
I really liked how Wikipedia added table for showing octal digits in umask command to their corresponding action.
Can we do a similar thing for umask.1p or how can I contact The Open Group to make changes into their manual?
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Utkarsh Singh
Quoted 4 lines · Walter Harms
Hello everybody,
i did no see any answer.How is maintaining the posix-pages organized ?
There some misunderstanding from my side on how POSIX manual pages are 'distributed' with Linux man-page project. Here is message posted on this mailing list some time ago.
Message from Michael Kerrisk on Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:56:48 +0100:
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In 2004, the IEEE and The Open Group decided to grant permission to the Linux man-pages project to distribute parts of the then-current version of POSIX.1 in manual page format. That decision provided an extremely valuable resource for Linux programmers who wanted to write applications that are portable across UNIX systems. Evidence of that value has been demonstrated by regular requests in the last few years that the project should update its copy of the POSIX manual pages to the latest version provided by The Austin Group (the umbrella group that works on development of the POSIX.1 standard).
This means that Linux man-page project only distribute standards in forms accessible offline using man command and doesn't edit them.
Confusion aside, you can always download Wikipedia pages or in fact any HTML pages using wget or curl command. For ex:
$ wget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
You can use a graphical browser like Firefox or a text browser like lynx to view them. For ex:
$ lynx Umask.html
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Utkarsh Singh http://utkarshsingh.xyz
Hello Walter, Utkarsh,
Quoted 4 lines · Walter Harms
Hello everybody,
i did no see any answer.How is maintaining the posix-pages organized ?
Thanks for the ping.
Well, we only have a script to transform the original HTML POSIX manual pages into actual man pages. We maintain the script, and apply minor fixes to the resulting pages when the script fails, but other than that, the Open Group is responsible for the content; I guess (but I don't know for sure; Michael will know better) the permission to redistribute the pages is to redistribute them without changes.
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Hi,
The POSIX.1 standard man page for umask is a really well written document but lacks some notes for beginners.
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For example comparing umask.1p to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask>
I really liked how Wikipedia added table for showing octal digits in umask command to their corresponding action.Can we do a similar thing for umask.1p or how can I contact The Open Group to make changes into their manual?
I don't know how to contact the Open Group. Michael probably knows. I tried some time ago, but their website is a bit complicated for me and I get lost.
Thanks,
Alex
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Alejandro Colomar Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/