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DISCUSSION kylin 2 participants 3 messages May 4, 2005 SCSI

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On one hand ,hardwarely,as it is always said, PCIE provides the superexcellent performance

comparing with the PCI and PCI -X
On the other ,softwarely,in most the application scenarios i have met , the PCIE equipment will

have to use the pci-compatible driver first in linux. because the Configuration head is pci compatible in the first 256 byte , it is allowed and really works.
i know if we use the conventional Device Driver for pcie equipment, the advanced option such as MSI ,Flow Control ,TC ,VC and hotplug are unavailable, i also know

that the speed is mainly the problem of Bandwidth and Clocking. Still i know that the Trafic

control mechanism is good for the arbitration and thus improve the performance just like the

TCP protocol ways.
So my conclusion is :
the conventional Device driver will not be the bottle neck of the PCIE performance as long as

only speed is concerned ,and the advanced options are only Application-related.
here allow me just compare it with the network protocol , oh ,i just use the IP protocol ,with out the TCP /UDP way. is that right ?or any wise can give some advice and

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Quoted 7 lines · kylin

On one hand ,hardwarely,as it is always said, PCIE provides the superexcellent performance

comparing with the PCI and PCI -X
On the other ,softwarely,in most the application scenarios i have met , the PCIE equipment will

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have to use the pci-compatible driver first in linux. because the Configuration head is pci compatible in the first 256 byte , it is allowed and really works.
i know if we use the conventional Device Driver for pcie equipment, the advanced option such as MSI ,Flow Control ,TC ,VC and hotplug are

rubbish. MSI and Hotplug are independent of PCI Express and are used by conventional PCI drivers today. Flow control, TC and VC are all part of the same thing.

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unavailable, i also know

that the speed is mainly the problem of Bandwidth and Clocking. Still i know that the Trafic

control mechanism is good for the arbitration and thus improve the performance just like the

TCP protocol ways.

Um, no, not really. There's very little hardware support for VC/TC at the moment, so having software support for it isn't a priority. In addition, it really depends how deep your PCI bus hierarchy is whether VC/TC will have any effect on performance at all.

Why is this question on linux-scsi anyway?

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Quoted 7 lines · kylin

On one hand ,hardwarely,as it is always said, PCIE provides the superexcellent performance

comparing with the PCI and PCI -X
On the other ,softwarely,in most the application scenarios i have met , the PCIE equipment will

Quoted 5 lines

have to use the pci-compatible driver first in linux. because the Configuration head is pci compatible in the first 256 byte , it is allowed and really works.
i know if we use the conventional Device Driver for pcie equipment, the advanced option such as MSI ,Flow Control ,TC ,VC and hotplug are

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rubbish. MSI and Hotplug are independent of PCI Express and are used by conventional PCI drivers today. Flow control, TC and VC are all part of the same thing.

sorry for my innocence,but all i want to say here is if the unMSI and unHotplug device driver would influence the normal speed in ONE common scenarios

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unavailable, i also know

that the speed is mainly the problem of Bandwidth and Clocking. Still i know that the Trafic

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control mechanism is good for the arbitration and thus improve the performance just like the

TCP protocol ways.

Um, no, not really. There's very little hardware support for VC/TC at the moment, so having software support for it isn't a priority.

yeah ,even the bios will rarely support this

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In addition,
it really depends how deep your PCI bus hierarchy is whether VC/TC will have any effect on performance at all.

have you seen the E7520 chipset ,sir?

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Why is this question on linux-scsi anyway?

because myu SCSI interface is connecting to the pcie bus:),love it and love the dog :)

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