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ataraid_end_request hides errors (all? 2.4 kernels)

RFC PATCH Martins Krikis 2 participants 3 messages Jul 26, 2004 – Jul 27, 2004

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Marcelo,

I had already written the subject off as "nobody cares"; I'm very glad you responded. Some more comments are below and I'm attaching a new patch.

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The correct thing seems to pass IO error ("!uptodate") to the upper ->b_end_io callback only in case both components of an IO operation have
failed. As long as at least one of the mirrors have successfully finished the IO, we should continue operation, providing reliability, AFAICS.

I think you are talking about the RAID-1 read case. In this case the ataraid subdrivers just pick one disk among all the possible mirrors and submit the request to that. ataraid_end_request() is not involved. The fact that most ataraid subdrivers won't resubmit the IO to a different mirror if it fails is a very small problem compared to what I'm picking on here.

And that is the following. For RAID1 writes, the IOs have to be submitted to all the mirrors. If the IO for _any_ of them fails, the upper levels should be notified of the error, because the data integrity is broken across mirrors. (With the exception of those few subdrivers that are capable of keeping working with the volume in "degraded" mode.) Ataraid_end_request() is widely used for the RAID1 write case and thus carries the danger of never notifying the upper levels that anything went wrong.

Furthermore, for RAID0 reads and writes, the ataraid subdrivers widely employ the ataraid_split_request() function in order to get the IO size to fit in just one strip and thus be applicable to just one disk. The ataraid_split_request() just splits the request in halves and may get invoked again on each part if they still don't fit. Each pair of new IOs that are produced this way are tied together through the use of ataraid_end_request(). Thus, in theory there could be a whole binary tree of requests formed from the "original request". And again, the trouble from using ataraid_end_request() is that most of these IOs in the tree could go wrong, but as long as the last one succeeds, a chain of ataraid_end_request()-s will happily report a successful IO completion to each other and eventually back to the upper levels. The userland application may never learn about the massive data corruption that has just occured. Again, it is my strong belief that if _any_ "component IO" fails, the whole "original IO" should be failed.

Therefore, the patch keeps track of cumulative IO status by using an otherwise unused bit from the b_state field in each IO's "parent buffer_head". Other solutions exist and I mentioned it before, but I think this is the least intrusive and does not require extra memory.

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About error reporting, indeed the current scheme is very bad and doesnt
correctly report errors. We should at least print some warning on ataraid_end_request() informing of IO errors.

I added a printk to the patch to follow your suggestion, but I think the main thing is to let the upper levels know.

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Its not OK to mess with BH_PrivateStart, no, jbd/xfs use it for their own purposes.

That's very unfortunate, because the comments in fs.h for 2.4 kernels and in buffer_head.h for 2.6 kernels make it look like all the bits starting with BH_PrivateStart are fair game. Any chance of replacing the inviting comment with a big warning, or better yet, officially incorporating all the bits used in jbd.h into the b_state?

Best regards,

Martins Krikis

P.S. The patch is untested. I don't have a setup to do this easily.

drivers/ide/raid/ataraid.c renamed from drivers/ide/raid/ataraid.c.orig +14 -1
@@ -34,7 +34,8 @@
 
 #include "ataraid.h"
 
-                                        
+#define BH_IOFailure (BH_PrivateStart + 5) /* jbd.h uses +0 to +4 */
+
 static int ataraid_hardsect_size[256];
 static int ataraid_blksize_size[256];
 
@@ -153,7 +154,17 @@ void ataraid_end_request(struct buffer_h
 	if (private==NULL)
 		BUG();
 
+	if (!uptodate) { 
+		set_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state);
+		printk(KERN_ERR "ataraid: IO error on major %d minor %d\n",
+		       MAJOR(bh->b_rdev), MINOR(bh->b_rdev));
+	}		       
+	
 	if (atomic_dec_and_test(&private->count)) {
+		if (test_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state)) {
+			uptodate = 0; /* fail the completed original I/O */
+			clear_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state);
+		}
 		private->parent->b_end_io(private->parent,uptodate);
 		private->parent = NULL;
 		kfree(private);
@@ -194,6 +205,8 @@ static void ataraid_split_request(reques
 
 	bh2->b_data +=  bh->b_size/2;
 
+	clear_bit(BH_IOFailure, &bh->b_state); /* this bit tracks success */
+
 	generic_make_request(rw,bh1);
 	generic_make_request(rw,bh2);
 }
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Quoted 5 lines · Martins Krikis

Marcelo,

I had already written the subject off as "nobody cares"; I'm very glad you responded. Some more comments are below and I'm attaching a new patch.

:)

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The correct thing seems to pass IO error ("!uptodate") to the upper ->b_end_io callback only in case both components of an IO operation have
failed. As long as at least one of the mirrors have successfully finished the IO, we should continue operation, providing reliability, AFAICS.

Note, I'm really ignorant about ataraid, so I might miss something, as you just pointed out that I have :)

Anyway, lets keep going...

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I think you are talking about the RAID-1 read case. In this case the ataraid subdrivers just pick one disk among all the possible mirrors and submit the request to that. ataraid_end_request() is not involved. The fact that most ataraid subdrivers won't resubmit the IO to a different mirror if it fails is a very small problem compared to what I'm picking on here.

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And that is the following. For RAID1 writes, the IOs have to be submitted to all the mirrors. If the IO for _any_ of them fails, the upper levels should be notified of the error, because the data integrity is broken across mirrors. (With the exception of those few subdrivers that are capable of keeping working with the volume in "degraded" mode.)

I supposed all of them would be able to work in degraded mode? No?

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Ataraid_end_request() is widely used
for the RAID1 write case and thus carries the danger of never notifying the upper levels that anything went wrong.

Furthermore, for RAID0 reads and writes, the ataraid subdrivers widely employ the ataraid_split_request() function in order to get the IO size to fit in just one strip and thus be applicable to just one disk. The ataraid_split_request() just splits the request in halves and may get invoked again on each part if they still don't fit. Each pair of new IOs that are produced this way are tied together through the use of ataraid_end_request(). Thus, in theory there could be a whole binary tree of requests formed from the "original request". And again, the trouble from using ataraid_end_request() is that most of these IOs in the tree could go wrong, but as long as the last one succeeds, a chain of ataraid_end_request()-s will happily report a successful IO completion to each other and eventually back to the upper levels. The userland application may never learn about the massive data corruption that has just occured. Again, it is my strong belief that if _any_ "component IO" fails, the whole "original IO" should be failed.

Therefore, the patch keeps track of cumulative IO status by using an otherwise unused bit from the b_state field in each IO's "parent buffer_head". Other solutions exist and I mentioned it before, but I think this is the least intrusive and does not require extra memory.

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About error reporting, indeed the current scheme is very bad and doesnt
correctly report errors. We should at least print some warning on ataraid_end_request() informing of IO errors.

I added a printk to the patch to follow your suggestion, but I think the main thing is to let the upper levels know.

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Its not OK to mess with BH_PrivateStart, no, jbd/xfs use it for their own purposes.

That's very unfortunate, because the comments in fs.h for 2.4 kernels and in buffer_head.h for 2.6 kernels make it look like all the bits starting with BH_PrivateStart are fair game. Any chance of replacing the inviting comment with a big warning, or better yet, officially incorporating all the bits used in jbd.h into the b_state?

Well, the comment says

BH_PrivateStart,/* not a state bit, but the first bit available
* for private allocation by other entities */

And "other entities" are some of the journalling filesystems.

When I read the comment, I can't figure out that using it freely from anywhere is "fair game". But you seem to understand otherwise.

Yes, we could stick a stronger indication of "journalling fs'es for instance use this". Incorporating the bits in jbd.h into b_state doesnt seem right because BH_PrivateStart is a generic thing, and not a JBD only thing. Does that make sense?

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Best regards,

Martins Krikis

P.S. The patch is untested. I don't have a setup to do this easily.

The "#define BH_IOFailure (BH_PrivateStart + 5) /* jbd.h uses +0 to +4 */" is not the cleanest thing in the world, but...

Lets ask the guy who wrote this. Arjan, what you think of this patch?

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From my POV, better to report IO errors than not at all.

drivers/ide/raid/ataraid.c renamed from drivers/ide/raid/ataraid.c.orig +14 -1
@@ -34,7 +34,8 @@
 
 #include "ataraid.h"
 
-                                        
+#define BH_IOFailure (BH_PrivateStart + 5) /* jbd.h uses +0 to +4 */
+
 static int ataraid_hardsect_size[256];
 static int ataraid_blksize_size[256];
 
@@ -153,7 +154,17 @@ void ataraid_end_request(struct buffer_h
 	if (private==NULL)
 		BUG();
 
+	if (!uptodate) { 
+		set_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state);
+		printk(KERN_ERR "ataraid: IO error on major %d minor %d\n",
+		       MAJOR(bh->b_rdev), MINOR(bh->b_rdev));
+	}		       
+	
 	if (atomic_dec_and_test(&private->count)) {
+		if (test_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state)) {
+			uptodate = 0; /* fail the completed original I/O */
+			clear_bit(BH_IOFailure, &private->parent->b_state);
+		}
 		private->parent->b_end_io(private->parent,uptodate);
 		private->parent = NULL;
 		kfree(private);
@@ -194,6 +205,8 @@ static void ataraid_split_request(reques
 
 	bh2->b_data +=  bh->b_size/2;
 
+	clear_bit(BH_IOFailure, &bh->b_state); /* this bit tracks success */
+
 	generic_make_request(rw,bh1);
 	generic_make_request(rw,bh2);
 }
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Quoted 8 lines · --- Marcelo Tosatti
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And that is the following. For RAID1 writes, the IOs have to be submitted to all the mirrors. If the IO for _any_ of them fails, the upper levels should be notified of the error, because the data integrity is broken across mirrors. (With the exception of those few subdrivers that are capable of keeping working with the volume in "degraded" mode.)

I supposed all of them would be able to work in degraded mode? No?

Well, I don't want to give definite answers for drivers I haven't been involved with. Yet my belief is that none of the ataraid subdrivers that are currently included with the official kernel sources can do that. Actually, I should not have chosen the words "keeping working" because they surely will, in blissful ignorance of any errors that are happening or any metadata that may need updating. I'll stop here as this is not a direction that I want to take this discussion. And my apologies if what I said is not correct. I think the main idea is that this is ataraid, not md, and the bar is set much lower on purpose. But that shouldn't preclude letting the user know that errors are happening, and that's why I first wrote.

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That's very unfortunate, because the comments in fs.h for 2.4

kernels

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and in buffer_head.h for 2.6 kernels make it look like all the bits starting with BH_PrivateStart are fair game. Any chance of

replacing

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the inviting comment with a big warning, or better yet, officially incorporating all the bits used in jbd.h into the b_state?

Well, the comment says

BH_PrivateStart,/* not a state bit, but the first bit
available
* for private allocation by other entities */

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And "other entities" are some of the journalling filesystems.

When I read the comment, I can't figure out that using it freely from anywhere is "fair game". But you seem to understand otherwise.

Yes, I had indeed understood that any new modules may make free use of this bit as it suits their needs. A new block device driver, for example, is also an "other entity". The author may check what the layers below it do (if any, e.g., scsi hba drivers), see that nobody is touching BH_PrivateSync and assume that it is OK to use it in the block device driver. Or in an ataraid patch :-). Turns out that the bit is off-limits, however, because journaling filesystems use it and block device drivers living below the filesystems could cause problems by using this bit. That's not good, the block device driver writer should not have to worry about what the higher layers are doing. While it may not be the best analogy, when we kmalloc memory, it is ours to use, no worries about who else will use it after we're done. We may have to initialize it but we certainly don't have to return it to the state that we received it in before releasing. Going back to the BH_PrivateSync bit, even a person who notices jbd.h using the bit, may assume that perhaps the filesystems only use the bit when nobody can interfere with its use. So now I know that it's apparently not the case, but I sure had my hopes up still very recently... (Yes, I know that the argument can be made that the block device driver shouldn't use it either, because somebody on an even lower level may decide to use it... I don't have a good response to that; I can't demand of filesystems what I'm not doing myself; I was just hoping for a little miracle, I guess).

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Yes, we could stick a stronger indication of "journalling fs'es for instance
use this". Incorporating the bits in jbd.h into b_state doesnt seem right
because BH_PrivateStart is a generic thing, and not a JBD only thing.

Does that make sense?

Yes and no. If it's a truly "generic thing" then a block device driver should be able to use it. It sounds more like it's a "filesystem-specific thing, not to be used by any module that's not a filesystem". Well, I don't know what the ideal solution is, but I hope I explained how I found the comment misleading. It seems to me that such bit-ownership disputes may come up again, unless either the kernel decides who owns it or the comment says that the bit is used on first-come-first-served basis (and therefore new module authors must check the whole source tree for previous uses). Or perhaps, the kernel can just specify that so many bits are for use at filesystem level, so many next bits for use by block devices (and so on if there are any other interested parties). But we can probably just leave all this as is. This discussion will leave enough of an email-trace for anybody who is serious to figure out where things stand.

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The "#define BH_IOFailure (BH_PrivateStart + 5) /* jbd.h uses +0 to +4 */"
is not the cleanest thing in the world, but...

I know :-). In my original post I expressed an alternative---have
an extra field in ataraid_bh_private structure for this purpose. But I hate using more space for something that really is just one bit worth of information (per original IO).

Martins Krikis

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