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New: The mount of SYN retries is not equal to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries

Bugme-new Andrew Morton 5 participants 10 messages Sep 22, 2010 – Sep 28, 2010 1 message not in the archive

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#1 lore raw
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Quoted 72 lines · On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:50:12 GMT [email protected] wrote:

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18952

           Summary: The mount of SYN retries is not equal to
                    /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries
           Product: Networking
           Version: 2.5
    Kernel Version: 2.6.32.12, 2.6.32.15, 2.6.35.4
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
              Tree: Mainline
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P1
         Component: IPV4
        AssignedTo: [email protected]
        ReportedBy: [email protected]
        Regression: No

When setting a value in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries, the actual number of syn retries is the number set in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries minus 2.

For example:
When setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries to 5 the actual number of SYN retries is 3.
When setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries to 7 the actual number of SYN retries is 5.
However, when setting setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syn_retries to 2 the actual number of SYN retries is 2.

Note: In the kernel 2.6.31.9 actual number of SYN = tcp_syn_retries + 1

Steps to reproduce:
sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -i lo -p tcp --dport 88 -j DROP sudo tcpdump -n -i lo -v tcp port 88

from another console run:
time wget -t 1 -O - --connect-timeout=300 http://0:88

tcpdump output:
sudo tcpdump -n -i lo -v tcp port 88
11:29:39.820058 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 14664, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)

    127.0.0.1.43730 > 127.0.0.1.kerberos: Flags [S], cksum 0xfe30 (incorrect ->

0xecf4), seq 1012617667, win 32792, options [mss 16396,sackOK,TS val 12871819 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
11:29:42.824091 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 14665, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)

    127.0.0.1.43730 > 127.0.0.1.kerberos: Flags [S], cksum 0xfe30 (incorrect ->

0xe137), seq 1012617667, win 32792, options [mss 16396,sackOK,TS val 12874824 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
11:29:48.832153 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 14666, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)

    127.0.0.1.43730 > 127.0.0.1.kerberos: Flags [S], cksum 0xfe30 (incorrect ->

0xc9bf), seq 1012617667, win 32792, options [mss 16396,sackOK,TS val 12880832 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0

wget output:
time wget -t 1 -O - --connect-timeout=300 http://0:88
Resolving 0... 0.0.0.0
Connecting to 0|0.0.0.0|:88... failed: Connection timed out. Giving up.

real    0m21.050s
user    0m0.003s
sys     0m0.004s

It valid for remote host also.

maintainer
#2 lore raw

tcp_syn_retries is not an exact calculation.

It is input into a calculation which estimates how long that many retransmits (with suitable backoff applied) will take, and that time estimte in turn determines the time limit for when we'll kill the connection attempt.

Feel free to update the documentation in Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt to more closely match the behavior.

The logic is in net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c:retransmits_timed_out().

maintainer
#4 lore raw
In reply to Yuri Chislov

From: Yuri Chislov <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:06 +0200

Quoted 8 lines

It looks like the behavior changed in 2.6.32. 2.6.32 and up, uses some
calculation instead of a direct definition of the retries number, that makes it harder to achieve the necessary system behavior.

The default behavior of the system changed completely
(the old default connect timeout was ~ 180 seconds, while the new one is ~21 sec).

Quoted 6 lines

The new behavior invalidates the kernel documentation and tcp man page.

It's not possible to set a connect timeout > 25 sec in the applications while using the default values in /proc.

From my view point is regression.

Agreed, Damian you have to fix this.

Otherwise I'm reverting all of your Revert Backoff commits.

#3 lore raw
In reply to David Miller

It looks like the behavior changed in 2.6.32. 2.6.32 and up, uses some
calculation instead of a direct definition of the retries number, that makes it harder to achieve the necessary system behavior.

The default behavior of the system changed completely
(the old default connect timeout was ~ 180 seconds, while the new one is ~21 sec).

The new behavior invalidates the kernel documentation and tcp man page.

It's not possible to set a connect timeout > 25 sec in the applications while using the default values in /proc.

Quoted 1 line

From my view point is regression.

Quoted 12 lines · David Miller

tcp_syn_retries is not an exact calculation.

It is input into a calculation which estimates how long that many retransmits (with suitable backoff applied) will take, and that time estimte in turn determines the time limit for when we'll kill the connection attempt.

Feel free to update the documentation in Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt to more closely match the behavior.

The logic is in net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c:retransmits_timed_out().

#5 lore raw
In reply to David Miller

Hi David,

give me some time, please. I'll take a closer look in the evening.

Regards
Damian

Am Montag, den 27.09.2010, 01:10 -0700 schrieb David Miller:

Quoted 21 lines

From: Yuri Chislov <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:06 +0200

Quoted 8 lines

It looks like the behavior changed in 2.6.32. 2.6.32 and up, uses some
calculation instead of a direct definition of the retries number, that makes it harder to achieve the necessary system behavior.

The default behavior of the system changed completely
(the old default connect timeout was ~ 180 seconds, while the new one is ~21 sec).

Quoted 6 lines

The new behavior invalidates the kernel documentation and tcp man page.

It's not possible to set a connect timeout > 25 sec in the applications while using the default values in /proc.

From my view point is regression.

Agreed, Damian you have to fix this.

Otherwise I'm reverting all of your Revert Backoff commits.

#6 lore raw
In reply to David Miller

Ok, I see.

When I read your mail this morning, I was afraid, that this is another bug in the calculation routine. However, the routine seems ok to me.

The problem is the high discrepancy between the RTO_MIN-based calculation and TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT-based actual backoff in the SYN-case.

Yuris example did not reveal a conceptually new bug, as the same behaviour can be observed on pre 2.6.32 kernels at higher values. I tested wget on a 2.6.26 kernel with timeout values of 300 and above. All runs did time out after 189 seconds, with the sysctl-value as their hard limit.

My suggestion for solving this issue:
Introducing a third boolean parameter for retransmits_timed_out() indicating whether the socket is in SYN state or not. In the SYN case, TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT will be used for the calculation instead of TCP_RTO_MIN.

Is that ok?

Regards
Damian

Am Montag, den 27.09.2010, 01:10 -0700 schrieb David Miller:

Quoted 21 lines

From: Yuri Chislov <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:07:06 +0200

Quoted 8 lines

It looks like the behavior changed in 2.6.32. 2.6.32 and up, uses some
calculation instead of a direct definition of the retries number, that makes it harder to achieve the necessary system behavior.

The default behavior of the system changed completely
(the old default connect timeout was ~ 180 seconds, while the new one is ~21 sec).

Quoted 6 lines

The new behavior invalidates the kernel documentation and tcp man page.

It's not possible to set a connect timeout > 25 sec in the applications while using the default values in /proc.

From my view point is regression.

Agreed, Damian you have to fix this.

Otherwise I'm reverting all of your Revert Backoff commits.

maintainer
#7 lore raw

From: Damian Lukowski <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:00:08 +0200

Quoted 7 lines

My suggestion for solving this issue:
Introducing a third boolean parameter for retransmits_timed_out() indicating whether the socket is in SYN state or not. In the SYN case, TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT will be used for the calculation instead of TCP_RTO_MIN.

Is that ok?

Sounds fine to me, please prepare a patch.

Thanks!

#8 lore raw

What is advantage in the replace compare by calculation?
Please clarify, if possible.
Thanks.
Yuri.

--- linux-2.6.31.14/net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c 2010-07-05 17:11:43.000000000
+0000
+++ linux-2.6.32.15/net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c 2010-06-01 16:56:03.000000000
+0000
@@ -137,13 +137,14 @@

 {
        struct inet_connection_sock *icsk = inet_csk(sk);
        int retry_until;

+ bool do_reset;

        if ((1 << sk->sk_state) & (TCPF_SYN_SENT | TCPF_SYN_RECV)) {
                if (icsk->icsk_retransmits)
                        dst_negative_advice(&sk->sk_dst_cache);
                retry_until = icsk->icsk_syn_retries ? : 
sysctl_tcp_syn_retries;
        } else {
-               if (icsk->icsk_retransmits >= sysctl_tcp_retries1) {
+               if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, sysctl_tcp_retries1)) {
                        /* Black hole detection */
                        tcp_mtu_probing(icsk, sk);

@@ -155,13 +156,15 @@

                        const int alive = (icsk->icsk_rto < TCP_RTO_MAX);
 
                        retry_until = tcp_orphan_retries(sk, alive);

+ do_reset = alive ||
+ !retransmits_timed_out(sk, retry_until);

- if (tcp_out_of_resources(sk, alive || icsk-

Quoted 1 line

icsk_retransmits < retry_until))

+ if (tcp_out_of_resources(sk, do_reset))

                                return 1;
                }
        }

- if (icsk->icsk_retransmits >= retry_until) {

+       if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, retry_until)) {
                /* Has it gone just too far? */
                tcp_write_err(sk);
                return 1;

@@ -279,7 +282,7 @@
* The TCP retransmit timer.
*/

-static void tcp_retransmit_timer(struct sock *sk) +void tcp_retransmit_timer(struct sock *sk)

 {
        struct tcp_sock *tp = tcp_sk(sk);
        struct inet_connection_sock *icsk = inet_csk(sk);
@@ -385,7 +388,7 @@
 out_reset_timer:
        icsk->icsk_rto = min(icsk->icsk_rto << 1, TCP_RTO_MAX);
        inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer(sk, ICSK_TIME_RETRANS, icsk->icsk_rto, 
TCP_RTO_MAX);
-       if (icsk->icsk_retransmits > sysctl_tcp_retries1)
+       if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, sysctl_tcp_retries1 + 1))
                __sk_dst_reset(sk);

out:;
@@ -499,8 +502,7 @@

        elapsed = tcp_time_stamp - tp->rcv_tstamp;
 
        if (elapsed >= keepalive_time_when(tp)) {

- if ((!tp->keepalive_probes && icsk->icsk_probes_out >=
sysctl_tcp_keepalive_probes) ||
- (tp->keepalive_probes && icsk->icsk_probes_out >= tp-

Quoted 1 line

keepalive_probes)) {

+               if (icsk->icsk_probes_out >= keepalive_probes(tp)) {
                        tcp_send_active_reset(sk, GFP_ATOMIC);
                        tcp_write_err(sk);
                        goto out;
Quoted 14 lines · David Miller

From: Damian Lukowski <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:00:08 +0200

Quoted 7 lines

My suggestion for solving this issue:
Introducing a third boolean parameter for retransmits_timed_out() indicating whether the socket is in SYN state or not. In the SYN case, TCP_TIMEOUT_INIT will be used for the calculation instead of TCP_RTO_MIN.

Is that ok?

Sounds fine to me, please prepare a patch.

Thanks!

#9 lore raw
Quoted 4 lines · Yuri Chislov

What is advantage in the replace compare by calculation?
Please clarify, if possible.
Thanks.
Yuri.

If you did take this from kernel history, reading the particular log message might have helped?!?

Quoted 70 lines

--- linux-2.6.31.14/net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c 2010-07-05 17:11:43.000000000
+0000
+++ linux-2.6.32.15/net/ipv4/tcp_timer.c 2010-06-01 16:56:03.000000000
+0000

(quoted diff) +6 -3
@@ -137,13 +137,14 @@
 {
        struct inet_connection_sock *icsk = inet_csk(sk);
        int retry_until;
+       bool do_reset;
 
        if ((1 << sk->sk_state) & (TCPF_SYN_SENT | TCPF_SYN_RECV)) {
                if (icsk->icsk_retransmits)
                        dst_negative_advice(&sk->sk_dst_cache);
                retry_until = icsk->icsk_syn_retries ? : 
 sysctl_tcp_syn_retries;
        } else {
-               if (icsk->icsk_retransmits >= sysctl_tcp_retries1) {
+               if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, sysctl_tcp_retries1)) {
                        /* Black hole detection */
                        tcp_mtu_probing(icsk, sk);
@@ -155,13 +156,15 @@
                        const int alive = (icsk->icsk_rto < TCP_RTO_MAX);
 
                        retry_until = tcp_orphan_retries(sk, alive);
+                       do_reset = alive ||
+                                  !retransmits_timed_out(sk, retry_until);
 
-                       if (tcp_out_of_resources(sk, alive || icsk-
 >icsk_retransmits < retry_until))
+                       if (tcp_out_of_resources(sk, do_reset))
                                return 1;
                }
        }
 
-       if (icsk->icsk_retransmits >= retry_until) {
+       if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, retry_until)) {
                /* Has it gone just too far? */
                tcp_write_err(sk);
                return 1;
(quoted diff) +2 -2
@@ -279,7 +282,7 @@
  *     The TCP retransmit timer.
  */
 
-static void tcp_retransmit_timer(struct sock *sk)
+void tcp_retransmit_timer(struct sock *sk)
 {
        struct tcp_sock *tp = tcp_sk(sk);
        struct inet_connection_sock *icsk = inet_csk(sk);
@@ -385,7 +388,7 @@
 out_reset_timer:
        icsk->icsk_rto = min(icsk->icsk_rto << 1, TCP_RTO_MAX);
        inet_csk_reset_xmit_timer(sk, ICSK_TIME_RETRANS, icsk->icsk_rto, 
 TCP_RTO_MAX);
-       if (icsk->icsk_retransmits > sysctl_tcp_retries1)
+       if (retransmits_timed_out(sk, sysctl_tcp_retries1 + 1))
                __sk_dst_reset(sk);
 

out:;

(quoted diff) +0 -1
@@ -499,8 +502,7 @@
        elapsed = tcp_time_stamp - tp->rcv_tstamp;
 
        if (elapsed >= keepalive_time_when(tp)) {
-               if ((!tp->keepalive_probes && icsk->icsk_probes_out >= 

sysctl_tcp_keepalive_probes) ||
- (tp->keepalive_probes && icsk->icsk_probes_out >= tp-

Quoted 1 line

keepalive_probes)) {

+               if (icsk->icsk_probes_out >= keepalive_probes(tp)) {
                        tcp_send_active_reset(sk, GFP_ATOMIC);
                        tcp_write_err(sk);
Signature · 1 line
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#10 lore raw

Thank you. The log is really helpful.

Quoted 9 lines · Ilpo Järvinen
Quoted 5 lines · Yuri Chislov

What is advantage in the replace compare by calculation?

Please clarify, if possible.
Thanks.
Yuri.

If you did take this from kernel history, reading the particular log message might have helped?!?