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Bug 52721 bugzilla-daemon-590EEB7GvNiWaY/[email protected] 1 participant 10 messages Jan 14, 2013 – Feb 5, 2015 1 message not in the archive Man-pages: manual pages for Linux -- Sections 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7

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               URL: http://www.kernel.org/doc/
           Summary: Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/
           Product: Documentation
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
              Tree: Mainline
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P1
         Component: man-pages
        AssignedTo: documentation_man-pages-ztI5WcYan/[email protected]
        ReportedBy: [email protected]
                CC: rob-VoJi6FS/[email protected]
        Regression: No

Seems like http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation and
http://www.kernel.org/doc/htmldocs are came from v3.0.0-rc7. It would be nice to update them.

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                 CC|                            |[email protected]
         Resolution|                            |INVALID

--- Comment #1 from Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> 2013-01-15 08:20:50 --- Sorry -- this is not a man-pages bug

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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Konstantin Khlebnikov <[email protected]> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
          Component|man-pages                   |Other
            Version|unspecified                 |2.5
         Resolution|INVALID                     |
            Product|Documentation               |Other

--- Comment #2 from Konstantin Khlebnikov <[email protected]> 2013-01-15 09:53:05 --- Agree, but there is only one component in 'documentation' product. Could you
please be less bureaucratic and tell the proper way to submit such kind of
problems. I added Rob Landley into CC (he's mentioned as maintainer of /doc/),
so I think he'll handle this.

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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--- Comment #3 from Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> 2013-01-15 10:15:28 --- Konstantin,

Sorry, my intention is not to be bureaucratic. But, I just don't have the time to triage bugs in other areas, and in this case, I do not know where you should submit the problem. Therefore, my response was to close the bug. I'll leave it alone for now, and see if Rob can help. But, failing that, I'm likely to close it again sometime in the future if it sits around for a long time assigned to me.

Best,

Michael

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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--- Comment #4 from Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/[email protected]> 2013-01-15 12:44:33 ---

Quoted 15 lines · On 01/15/2013 02:20:50 AM, bugzilla-daemon-590EEB7GvNiWaY/ihj7yzEB+6BGkLq7r@pub…

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Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> changed:

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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
                 CC|                             

|[email protected]
Resolution| |INVALID

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--- Comment #1 from Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]>

2013-01-15 08:20:50 ---

Sorry -- this is not a man-pages bug

The updated stuff has always been on http://landley.net/kdocs but the kernel.org guys went completely paranoid after the breakin and won't re-enable my account without a lot of bureaucratic hoops involving key signing.

http://landley.net/notes-2012.html#26-09-2012

Rob

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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--- Comment #5 from Konstantin Khlebnikov <[email protected]> 2013-01-15 13:25:45 --- This is sad. I think the best solution is to move this page to wiki.kernel.org
and put links to external/uptodate resources.

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[Bug 52721] Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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--- Comment #6 from Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/[email protected]> 2013-01-15 14:49:35 ---

Quoted 7 lines · On 01/15/2013 07:25:45 AM, bugzilla-daemon-590EEB7GvNiWaY/ihj7yzEB+6BGkLq7r@pub…

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--- Comment #5 from Konstantin Khlebnikov <[email protected]>

2013-01-15 13:25:45 ---

This is sad. I think the best solution is to move this page to wiki.kernel.org
and put links to external/uptodate resources.

Anyone who wants to do this has been free to do so for about 10 years now. Personally I'll never touch such a wiki: they're a decent way of piling together a random slush pile of unconnected tidbits, and a horrible way of organizing anything.

The mad hatter's advice ("start at the beginning, and when you get to the end stop") simply doesn't apply to wikis. Wikis provide no help keeping data complete, up to date, and nonduplicative. They're a nice communal scratch pad for brainstorming, but the best way to find anything in one is google.

Rob

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[Bug 52721] [TRIVIAL]Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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Alan <alan-qBU/[email protected]> changed:

What |Removed |Added
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                 CC|                            |alan-qBU/[email protected]
     Kernel Version|                            |na
            Summary|Oudated kernel              |[TRIVIAL]Oudated kernel
                   |documentation in            |documentation in
                   |http://kernel.org/doc/      |http://kernel.org/doc/
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[Bug 52721] [TRIVIAL]Oudated kernel documentation in http://kernel.org/doc/

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--- Comment #7 from Rob Landley <rob-VoJi6FS/[email protected]> ---

Quoted 3 lines · On 11/19/2013 08:02:46 AM, bugzilla-daemon-590EEB7GvNiWaY/ihj7yzEB+6BGkLq7r@pub…

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Alan <alan-qBU/[email protected]> changed:

...

I posted the following to the kernel-users list back in September, but never got a reply:

Quoted 6 lines · Konstantin Ryabitsev

Hi, all:

We already use 2-factor authentication for all admin-level access to infrastructure, so I wanted to ask whether it's something you would like
to see extended to non-admin access, such as for git repositories.

No, but could I raise the possibility of getting a dedicated ssh key with a forced rsync receive command line for a specific directory, ala page 61 of the slides from this?

http://x47industries.com/presentations/ssh-tips-tricks.html

I'd really, really, really like to be able to update
http://kernel.org/doc again, and writing a wrapper around kup to reimplement a really sad version of rsync has been a combination of "painful" and "busy work" that's kept off the first page of my todo list for 6 months now...

Rob

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Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> changed:

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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |INVALID

--- Comment #8 from Michael Kerrisk <[email protected]> --- Still not a man pages bug.

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