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YOUR OPINION PLEASE: u-boot-users added to Gmane

U-Boot-Users Wolfgang Denk 4 participants 5 messages Mar 14, 2004 – Mar 16, 2004 1 message not in the archive

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Quoted 6 lines · In message <[email protected]> the Gmane Administrator wrote:

We have received a request for adding the
u-boot-users at lists.sourceforge.net mailing list to the Gmane mail-to-news gateway/archive. A subscription request message has been sent. If this is contrary to your wishes, please send a mail to admin at gmane.org saying so, and the list will be removed from Gmane.

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If you wish to import older archives into Gmane, send a message to the Gmane administrators with the URL of a Unix mbox archive of the mailing list.

I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable archive of both.

However, my archives include not only postings sent through the mailing lists, but also some messages that were sent directly to my address. I am certain that they do not include any confidential information, and that they are all U-Boot related.

Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects against putting these messages into a public archive?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Quoted 10 lines · Wolfgang Denk

In message <[email protected]> the Gmane Administrator wrote:
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If you wish to import older archives into Gmane, send a message to the Gmane administrators with the URL of a Unix mbox archive of the mailing list.

I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable archive of both.

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However, my archives include not only postings sent through the mailing lists, but also some messages that were sent directly to my address. I am certain that they do not include any confidential information, and that they are all U-Boot related.

Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects against putting these messages into a public archive?

Do you honestly expect people to rummage through their logs and brains just because you poured all mails into one bucket? I really don't have time for this. Therefore, please consider all my mails I sent to you without copying the list to be of private nature which I don't want to be disclosed. I would strongly advise you to excercise this policy for everyone else as well.

Have you contacted Sourceforge? They should have complete log of all relevant mails.

Thank you,
Marius

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Hello Wolfgang,

Quoted 6 lines · Wolfgang Denk

However, my archives include not only postings sent through the mailing lists, but also some messages that were sent directly to my address. I am certain that they do not include any confidential information, and that they are all U-Boot related.

I remember we had exchanged a couple of private emails.

They DO NOT contain any confidential information and you DO have my permission to use them.

Thanks for everything you had done.

I really hope other people will find a couple of minutes to send similar mesages.

Vladimir Gurevich

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In message <[email protected]> the Gmane Administrator wrote:

I can provide complete logs of the ppcboot-users and the u-boot-users mailing lists. I think this is an excellent chance to get a seachable archive of both.

I am all for searchable archives and honestly I am not excited about sourceforge search capabilities (often multiple word searches do not work etc).

However, with newsgroups there comes the increase in spam! Sf.net subscriptions are receiving surprisingly low levels of spam as far as I can see. If it is archived in newsgroups, I strongly prefer the archives are filters and email addresses are either removed or shortened so they cannot be used when harvested. For example, yahoo lists convert email address to something like "wd at den..."

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However, my archives include not only postings sent through the mailing lists, but also some messages that were sent directly to my address. I am certain that they do not include any confidential information, and that they are all U-Boot related.

I prefer private mail sent directly to you stay private. Obviously, it is highly likely that it will be u-boot related but the sender did not feel comfortable to ask send in the list etc. in the first place.

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Is there anybody who sent me such "private" communication who objects against putting these messages into a public archive?

I belive direct emails should stay off list. I hope you can continue to honor that.

Best regards,
Tolunay Orkun

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Quoted 4 lines · In message <[email protected]> you wrote:

I am all for searchable archives and honestly I am not excited about sourceforge search capabilities (often multiple word searches do not work etc).

I agree. I'm not happy with SF either.

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However, with newsgroups there comes the increase in spam! Sf.net subscriptions are receiving surprisingly low levels of spam as far as I can see. If it is archived in newsgroups, I strongly prefer the archives are filters and email addresses are either removed or shortened so they cannot be used when harvested. For example, yahoo lists convert email address to something like "wd at den..."

Have a look how Gmane handles this.

BTW: it was not my idee to register with Gmane, I just happened to get asked if it's OK with me. Which it is.

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I prefer private mail sent directly to you stay private. Obviously, it is

Marius raised concers before, so I excluded all such stuff.

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I belive direct emails should stay off list. I hope you can continue to honor that.

Of course I will.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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