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Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x family?

The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have this line:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff

What does it mean?

I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

TIA,

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:09:19 -0500 Fernando Sanchez <[email protected]> wrote:

| Hi,
| 
| I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
| I get this error on my logs:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
| modules not enabled.
| 
| Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
| family?

Yes, they are at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/

Also, a summary of 2.5/2.6 changes is very worthwhile reading. See:
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
for which config options that you really need to enable.

| The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
| also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
| this line:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
| 
| What does it mean?

Dunno. Anyone?

| I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, | vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

--
~Randy
| http://developer.osdl.org/rddunlap/ | http://www.xenotime.net/linux/ |

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

I installed the module-init-tools package and it went to /usr/local. First I changed the kernel Makefile to point to /usr/local then I had module problems and tried copying the cmds to /sbin and renamed the the old commands like implied in the script:

generate-modprobe.conf

Yesterday I heard I better move them back or I won't be able to boot my old kernels. It's hard to believe that these tools aren't backward compatible.

Moving the module-init-tools to /sbin didn't help my problem; is it necessary/helpful. Perhaps they are only needed for building the new kernels.

-piet

Quoted 42 lines · On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:09:19 -0500 Fernando Sanchez…
| Hi,
| 
| I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but 
| I get this error on my logs:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel 
| modules not enabled.
| 
| Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x 
| family?

Yes, they are at
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rusty/modules/

Also, a summary of 2.5/2.6 changes is very worthwhile reading. See:
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
for which config options that you really need to enable.

| The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and 
| also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have 
| this line:
| 
| Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff
| 
| What does it mean?

Dunno. Anyone?

| I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, | vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

--
~Randy
| http://developer.osdl.org/rddunlap/ | http://www.xenotime.net/linux/ | -
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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

Quoted 4 lines · El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <[email protected]> escribió:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If it
detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils

Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader.

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

Gentoo works too, with 2.5 and 2.6, 2.4 works as expected, like before installing the devel kernels

:-)

Im going for the first day of uptime with 2.6, and no problem at all

Max

Quoted 28 lines · Diego Calleja García
Quoted 4 lines · El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <[email protected]> escribió:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If it
detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
(quoted diff) +0 -3
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils

Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader. -
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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

In reply to Diego Calleja García
Quoted 17 lines · Diego Calleja García
Quoted 4 lines · El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <[email protected]> escribió:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If it
detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*

Review

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-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils

Funny, I don't see insmod.modutils installed in /usr/local/sbin:

ls -l /usr/local/sbin/insmod*

	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        28834 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod
	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       461564 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod.static

I also didn't find insmod.modutils in the module-init-tools-0.9.12 src:
[root@www src]# find module-init-tools-0.9.12 -name "*insmod*" -print module-init-tools-0.9.12/doc/insmod.sgml module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.c module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.8 module-init-tools-0.9.12/.deps/insmod.Po module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.o module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.static
[root@www src]#

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Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader.

I think I missed something.

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

Quoted 10 lines · Diego Calleja García
Quoted 9 lines · El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <[email protected]> escribió:
Quoted 4 lines · Randy.Dunlap

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin

that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

I don't use the debian or RH packages. I just download and follow the instructions in the nice README file. I get insmod, insmod.old, depmod, depmod.old, etc.

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BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If
it detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
(quoted diff) +0 -2
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50
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/sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 95372
2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils

Funny, I don't see insmod.modutils installed in /usr/local/sbin:

ls -l /usr/local/sbin/insmod*

	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        28834 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod
	-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root       461564 Jul  9 14:36
								/usr/local/sbin/insmod.static

I also didn't find insmod.modutils in the module-init-tools-0.9.12 src:

   [root@www src]# find module-init-tools-0.9.12 -name "*insmod*" -print

module-init-tools-0.9.12/doc/insmod.sgml
module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.c
module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.8
module-init-tools-0.9.12/.deps/insmod.Po
module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.o
module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod
module-init-tools-0.9.12/insmod.static
[root@www src]#

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Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader.

I think I missed something.

I don't think that I have that one either. Could be a result of using one of the packages instead of building it from source.

~Randy

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Re: modules problems with 2.6.0 (module-init-tools-0.9.12)

In reply to Diego Calleja García
Quoted 22 lines · Diego Calleja García
Quoted 4 lines · El 15 Jul 2003 16:53:12 -0700 Piet Delaney <[email protected]> escribió:

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:22, Randy.Dunlap wrote:

I heard that if you install the new module-init-tools package in /sbin that you would be able to boot old kernels. Is that true?

It works here.
i've a debian distro, i apt-get'ed module-init-tools. Man modprobe says:

BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY
This version of insmod is for kernels 2.5.48 and above. If it
detects a kernel with support for old-style modules (for which much of the work was done in userspace), it will attempt to run insmod.modu- tils in its place, so it is completely transparent to the user.

diego@estel:~$ ls -l /sbin/insmod*
(quoted diff) +0 -3
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root         5072 2003-06-15 12:27 /sbin/insmod
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root          359 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root     root        95372 2003-03-06 15:50 /sbin/insmod.modutils
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Looking at the size, insmod.modutils seems the 2.4 insmod loader.

That is Debian doing things differently again. The vanilla modules-init-tools will run insmod.old:

  $ ls /sbin/insmod*
  /sbin/insmod  /sbin/insmod.old  /sbin/insmod.static 
/sbin/insmod_ksymoops_clean
  $

Anyhow, usually reading the documentation (*hint* README *hint*) should help.

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Quoted 10 lines · Fernando Sanchez

Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel

modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x family?

Yes there is. Please read the Documentation/Changes file for this info.

(hint, you need to get the module-init-tools package.)

Good luck,

greg k-h

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* Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:

Quoted 15 lines

Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel

modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x family?

The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have this line:

Quoted 8 lines
Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff

What does it mean?

I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

Fernando,

read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
(but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)

-Marc

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<quote sender="Marc Schiffbauer">

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* Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:

Quoted 19 lines

Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel

modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x family?

The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have this line:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff

What does it mean?

Quoted 8 lines
Quoted 2 lines

I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

Fernando,

read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
(but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)

If you are using debian, apt-get install module-init-tools.

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* Fernando Sanchez schrieb am 16.07.03 um 00:09 Uhr:

Quoted 15 lines

Hi,

I've been trying to get 2.6.0 to work, I've enabled modules support, but I get this error on my logs:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.

Is there any thing like a new modutils that should be used with 2.6.x family?

The kernel does boot, but not having any modules I can't do much, and also, I never get to really see the messages on screen, on logs I have this line:

Jul 15 15:38:36 Darakemba kernel: Video mode to be used for restore is ffff

What does it mean?

I disabled all the framebuffer things so I can just use vga, on lilo, vga mode is set to normal, but still can't see anything.

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Quoted 5 lines

Fernando,

read http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt
(but hsving DNS problems from germany right now)

If you are using debian, apt-get install module-init-tools.

Thanks, it seems to work better than the source I get, well, I actually screwed up something with the sources, and dpkg was able to fix it for me :)

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